01 Coleman roof seal has gaps

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  1. jthomas124169

    jthomas124169 New Member

    My 01 Coleman roof seal is not sealing all the way around and I need to come up with a quick fix to last me through the winter as I keep the pup stored outside.
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    I was thinking of using some adhesive backed weather stripping that is used for the bottom of doors.

    Julie(58) DD(81) 2 DGS(98)&(02) DF(42)
    I reject your reality and substitute it for my own.
     
  2. Storm Trooper

    Storm Trooper New Member

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    Julie,

    Is the seal still in one piece or has it separated? It isn't clear on your pics.

    If it is still in one piece, I would try tightening the latches down a bit by turning the latch screw down and relatching until the seal is compressed.

    If it has separated and you are the original owner, you maybe able to get your fleetwood/coleman dealer to replace it.

    Lou

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  3. jthomas124169

    jthomas124169 New Member

    The seal is all in one piece. It seals well along the sides, its the 2 ends (front and back) where it won't seal. The seal is attached to the roof of the pup and is not meeting the bottom of the pup on the 2 ends toward the middle.

    Julie(58) DD(81) 2 DGS(98)&(02) DF(42)
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  4. Storm Trooper

    Storm Trooper New Member

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    Julie,

    Wow, I really thought it would be a separation of the seal.

    Another thought, when the ABS roofs go bad, they usually push out to the sides and extend beyond the side of the trailer. Is the roof bowed at all in the middle of the trailer? IE, are the front end and rear end higher than the middle of the roof?
    I don't think this is your problem, just checking.

    Also, just asking to make sure nothing is on the inside of the trailer pushing up the roof in the middle? If this hasn't happened before, maybe your canvas is bunched up in the middle?

    If none of the above is true. I would try unlatching the roof latches and screwing the latch in a one turn at a time and gently relatching to see if that brings it down.

    Lou

    17 days booked 09, <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_camping.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Camping">49 nights camped in 08
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  5. jthomas124169

    jthomas124169 New Member

    The roof is not bowed. I did just close it up for the year and had a hard time even getting it to latch, I think in part because the canvas was so stiff. I had to let it sit for a day for it to compress down before I could latch it. I was afraid to unlatch it and screw the latch in for fear it might break or damage something.

    Julie(58) DD(81) 2 DGS(98)&(02) DF(42)
    I reject your reality and substitute it for my own.
     
  6. Storm Trooper

    Storm Trooper New Member

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    Julie,

    If the weather warms a bit, I would open it up and rearrange the canvas to make sure there isn't something else pressing up inside the roof. That seems to be the only thing that makes sense if it was latching correctly during the year. Or set it up and run your heater long enough to warm the canvas, then put it down quickly.

    I wish I could be of more help.

    And btw, I noticed all the leaves in the area between the body and the front storage compartment. You might want to keep that area clean, my prior coleman (99 Niagara) had the same setup and whenever leaves collected there, I seemed to get a leak around the cover when there was ice and snow mixed in with the leaves. When it was kept clean, it never leaked.

    Good luck and keep us posted.

    Lou

    17 days booked 09, <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_camping.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Camping">49 nights camped in 08
    07 Fleetwood Avalon (Great White)
    03 Ford Expedition (Green Monstah) GO Red SOX!!!
     
  7. Twisty

    Twisty New Member

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    Cover it IMMEDIATELY with SOMETHING! Water will seep in and once a damp area begins it will continue to weep in due to capilary action (migration). You will have trouble with mold and probably rot. Follow Storm Trooper's advice. Invest in an ADCO cover - for long term.

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  8. pianewman

    pianewman Ft. Worth, TX

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    Curiously, my front seal does the same thing (and has for 3 years). I've ignored it, and thankfully have had no water intrusion...that I know of, at least!
    I think, with age, the seal must shrink and, for some reason, gets pushed up farther on the roof. At some point, I will replace the seal, at which point I will satisfy my curiosity and see if the edge of the roof has a bit of a bow to it.
    FYI, I have no signs of ABS roof sag, and yours seems to be nicely domed.
    I assume Twisty means to cover the area where the seal isn't tight. I don't think covering the entire ABS roof is a good idea, per Coleman/Fleetwoods instructions.

    pianewman
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  9. jthomas124169

    jthomas124169 New Member

    I think for now I'm just going to use the weather stripping. The temps here have not been above freezing in awhile. In the spring I'll work on the permanent fix.

    Julie(58) DD(81) 2 DGS(98)&(02) DF(42)
    I reject your reality and substitute it for my own.
     
  10. pianewman

    pianewman Ft. Worth, TX

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    I just looked closely at my seal. It appears, because of shrinkage (shortening), that the seal at the corners gets pulled inward, making the seal at the corner out of position. Instead of the seal being under and slightly outside the roof edge when compressed, it is pulled under the roof, at the corner, and is therefore thicker at those points.
    Hope this makes sense. I'll try to take a photo later.

    pianewman
    2002 Fleetwood Santa Fe
    2005 Toyota Tundra Double Cab Limited, 4.7 liter, Reese 400 WDH, A.R.E. bed cap
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  11. RhinoDave

    RhinoDave New Member

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    One easy way to verify if your roof has any sag is to make sure the camper is level and then pour a little water in the drain channels on each side of the roof. I'm willing to bet you will have at least a little water collect in the center and not drain off. My roof had the gaps in the front and back until I stopped leaving the bunkend canvas wrapped around the mattress ends when I folded the camper down. I started pulling the bunkends into the center completely to place most of pressure on the roof in the center. It helped to reduce the sag and the roof now seals completely across the front and back. I have been holding off on replacing the roof because I only had a couple of small cracks this past summer until around Sept when I found several large cracks under the awning bag. I really don't want to replace the roof because I don't like the way the replacement looks and after it's replaced there is only a five year warrenty. Funny how a lifetime warrenty changes over the years. I'm not in a big hurry since it is stored in a friends polebarn out of the weather. My seal also shrank and pulled away from the corners. I pulled it off completely and reinstalled it which created a 2" gap at the back of the trailer where I created a nice new section of molding with high priced silver tape. More commonly known as "Duct Tape".

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  12. Twisty

    Twisty New Member

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    My point is to cover it until it can be repacked in warmer weather, or as Storm Trooper suggests, repacked after trying to heat it up. I would cover it with anything handy to try and avoid water damage. That's just me.

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