1988 Coleman Sequoia, Roof won't raise up.

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  1. Kellerfam4

    Kellerfam4 New Member

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    A couple days ago we pulled our camper out from yard area after not using it for 4 years. Had no problems raising roof. Left it open for a couple days, listed it for sale and when I let the buyer crank it down to close so he could see the roof, It cranked down fine. I don't believe I put the safety lock back onto the lower crank or the hook.
    The next day I went to crank it back up, it was really hard only raised up about 4". After trying to lube the cables and the bar that goes into the cover still didn't allow us to crank it up.
    We took off the cover for the whiffle tree and it will only go forward a little bit and stop.
    There is also a loud pop sound if you crank it a couple times.

    I told the buyer of the problem, but they are a single parent and giving them a great deal and would love to be able to still be able to sell to them, but we won't sell something that doesn't work.
    The cables seem to run underneath the popup and not through the cabin like most other posts I looked at. it doesn't seem that a cable is broken, but not sure if one could have jumped off the reel?
    All of the cables are still connected.
    Any ideas or troubleshooting ideas would be appreciated.
    Thanks.
     
  2. Kellerfam4

    Kellerfam4 New Member

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    Can anyone offer any ideas? We are going to start taking it apart tomorrow.
    Thanks in advance.
     
  3. jnc

    jnc Welcome from New Hampshire

  4. smit1088

    smit1088 Well-Known Member

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    The older system (Pre-1993) are a little simpler. I would guess it is a chain issue. But, I think to look at or fix that the front panel needs to come off. Usually the panels are not to bad to remove, but I have never done one of this vintage. The only other thing may be a bearing, but if it goes a little bit I would guess chain.

    If you have the wiffle tree open, crank it down and clean the grease off and replace it with new to help the acme screw.
     
  5. Kellerfam4

    Kellerfam4 New Member

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    Thank you, after watching some you tube videos and researching some more that is exactly what we are thinking.
    We really appreciate the input. Fingers crossed. Sold to a really nice single Dad and want to make this happen for them.
     
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  6. wayoutwest

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    @Kellerfam4 , did you sell the camper? I had the front panel of my 88 Columbia camper off last week and took several pics of the inside, I'd be happy to put them up
     
  7. Kellerfam4

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    Wow. That was a serious rehab. Great work and thanks for sharing. Trying to find a video to take off the front panel. Seems basic enough, but we don't want to miss a screw and pull on it and break something else. Won't sell it till we know it can be fixed.
     
  8. Kellerfam4

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    Does anyone know of any videos we could watch that shows how to take off the front panel? We are going to start there today to hopefully see what is wrong. Thanks.
     
  9. Kellerfam4

    Kellerfam4 New Member

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    Could you post the pictures of taking of the front panel or how many screws and where they are? That would be very helpful. Thank you.
     
  10. wayoutwest

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    @Kellerfam4

    Ours are a little different as my exterior is all aluminum. My front and side panels are riveted to each other, there are then trim pieces that are screwed to the corners to protect them and then thin plastic covers over the screws. I had to drill out all the top and side rivets, fairly easy and straight forward, oversize bit to drill off the heads and the rivets fell to the inside, or lightly tapped with a punch. The bottom of my front panel was just screwed on to the underside of the front frame.

    I un-dented my front panel the best I could, also cleaned up the inside chain, lubed it while in there. Reassembly was easy, Harbor Freight for a hand pop rivet squeezer. One of the rivets were the right size and hardware store for the next size up.

    Looking online for the Sequoia, you may have to access your side panels from the inside, may have to remove the front lower 'wall'.

    some googling found this, gives a good idea of what the guts look like

    http://popupportal.com/threads/new-project-1989-coleman-sequoia-pop-up-camper.103859/
     
  11. wayoutwest

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    This is my Columbia. I’d imagine the top and bottom would attach the same way.

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  12. Kellerfam4

    Kellerfam4 New Member

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    my husband said the bearings were coming out of the glide that is on the whiffle tree. Is there a way to repack the bearings or do we need to purchase a new whiffle tree. we are trying to sell it, but not sure what to do if we have to add a $150 part
     
  13. wayoutwest

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    you might find the parts at Coleman popup parts vs having to replace the whole thing. I sure would try to just rebuild what you have to. Cant hurt to try. Hardware store for new bearing if they are toast and grease, hopefully able to reuse the seal.

    @Kellerfam4 , any pics of the problem part?
     
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    Kellerfam4 New Member

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    Here are some pictures. You can spin the whiffle tree freely one way, then when you spin it the opposite way it is locked and won't spin. 20180714_120438.jpg 20180714_120500.jpg 20180714_121241.jpg 20180714_121247.jpg 20180714_121250.jpg 20180714_121500.jpg 20180714_120438.jpg 20180714_120500.jpg 20180714_121241.jpg 20180714_121247.jpg 20180714_121250.jpg 20180714_121500.jpg
     
  16. Kellerfam4

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    Looks like we need a whiffle aa I couldn't seem to find anything saying we could fix the worm gear. I live in the Lehigh Valley, PA area. Is it still cheaper to order online?
     
  17. jnc

    jnc Welcome from New Hampshire

    I think if it only turns oneway that the problem is in the crank not the tree.
     
  18. Kellerfam4

    Kellerfam4 New Member

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    So, we don't think we want to get into repairing the whiffle tree. We aren't sure that's all it is. We are thinking to drop the price as is and we will disclose all that we know. If anything it would be great for a rebuild or parts for someone else.
    Here's some facts: 1988 Coleman Sequoia-owned and maintained by my father till we got it in 2004.
    We never performed any maintenance on anything. Yikes.
    Roof did have a leak and not sure it still doesn't have a leak, but when we popped it up, there was nothing wet, but the covering is peeling off and you can see the thin wood looks like it had water damage. We did fix seal around center strip and down the middle and the corners years ago when we found out it was leaking.
    Does have repair outside rear panel.
    Didn't open it for 3 years, stored outside under trees.
    The good, floor still is in good shape, clean inside, No damage to slides or mattresses for beds.
    Cabinets, table, fine.
    Is $300 fair price? The person originally sold to never owned a pop up and said he is a carpenter.
    Here are some pictures.
     

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  19. jnc

    jnc Welcome from New Hampshire

    I think you are letting it go cheap and should have no regrets selling it to someone who knows it has issues.
     
  20. Kellerfam4

    Kellerfam4 New Member

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    Thank you, for the reassurance, we aren't looking to make money or deceive anyone. But who doesn't want some extra cash. We had several people ask to see it at $600 but I took the first person's offer for only $400. Just don't want to sell something that isn't at a good price.
     

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