Add roof mounted AC to 07 Fleetwood Yuma

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  1. afob3

    afob3 New Member

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    When we bought our pop up in June we decided to skip having the AC installed for the discount they would provide. At the time we thought the discount was nice and that having AC wouldn't be 'real' camping.

    After a few outings we decided that having AC wouldn't be such a sacriledge and that we would arrange for it to be done over the winter.

    So I called the dealer today to find out what it would cost and was quoted $804. This included some kind of kit that was over a hundred bucks. Now that I think about it I'm not sure if that included install. I didn't ask since I was still in sticker shock.

    Is this price way out there or not? I have seen cheaper units online, however I'm not comfortable with cutting holes in my roof yet. I know window units are an option, but the DW won't be to hip to that idea either.

    Thoughts... Suggestions....?

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  2. JoeyIVI

    JoeyIVI New Member

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    First do you have a roof vent in your roof currently typically you will it will measure 14 x 14 i have seen units around 400.00 on ebay the other thing you may need is a roof bracing but alot of the time the factory installs them too If you have the opening install is a walk in the park you will need the upper and lower unit and if memory serves me correctly i think 12gauge wire to do the install hope this helps if you need any more help email me JoeyIVI@hotmail.com I am getting ready to do my second install of an A/C unit on my 01 dutchmen
     
  3. afob3

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    No holes in the roof yet. However there is a metal beam running left to right across the center of the roof. I assume that is the brace. I'm comfortable with the electrical side though. How do they run the cable from the converter so the camper still opens and closes?

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    You are correct, the metal beam is the brace. Typically the cord is run through to brace or installed right beside it (in plastic box tubing that screws to the roof and hides the cord). Where the cord reaches the side-wall, take it along the top behind the curtain to a corner. Before choosing the corner, check your plugs. One of the plugs located near a corner should have a 20 amp socket. That's the corner you want. In camper, the cord then dangles down beside the bed curtain. It is in a coil (with a velcro tie) hidden behind the curtain. Release the coil after set up, The cord runs down the inside corner and (in our case) tucks under a cushion on the bench and out the corner of the bench to the plug on the wall under the bench.

    You unplug the cord and coil it before tear down.

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    Edited by - scm46530 on December 17 2007 20:55:35
     
  5. turtle

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    Ordered the 13500 btu carrier unit off ebay with heat strip and shipping 530.00. Brace was in place. My ceiling had 4 plastic push tabs where the vent would go. started at one with a jig saw and cut the hole. Got a 12 gauge exterior electric cord cut the female end off, fished it thru the hole in brace and down the side to the 20 amp plug. Took about 1 1/2 hour. The only real problem is if you tighten the unit down too much then you have to remove and install new gasket. Pretty simple really.

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    My local dealer said $750 just for the unit, not including installation, so it doesn't sound like your dealer was way off.
     
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    My dealer said $950 installed W/O heat strip

    06 Fleetwood Graphite
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  8. grcooperjr

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    Howdy Afob3

    I went with a Carrier Airv low profile 15000 btu with heat strip on mine (See Pic). I got it from Family RV for $595 shipped. IT was real easy to install took around 2 hours to install.Here's more info on the install. I went with the low profile because it is almost 5 inches shorter in height than the stock Coleman unit for not much more money.

    Hope it helps

    Ray Cooper
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    2007 Fleetwood Evolution E3
    The boys... Buddy, Toby, Ralphie, Sammy, & D.B."Cooper"

    Edited by - grcooperjr on December 18 2007 23:27:25

    Edited by - grcooperjr on December 18 2007 23:28:04
     
  9. afob3

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    nice writeup... I only have one of those metal braces going across the roof. Perhaps its because I have a short 10 foot box.

    Did it come with gaskets or other info to help keep things water tight? I imagine a good bit of silicone would be extra insurance.

    I noticed last time it was open that I had 4 white button like things on the ceiling. I wonder if that is where the AC is supposed to go. They are probably 14 inches apart forming a square. I never checked or thought about it till I started this search.

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    Hi again


    The air unit comes with everything you need including the gasket. No sealer required. The only option is the heat strip and that is about $45.00 at purchase time. For the cost diff, I'd get the heat strip when you buy it. If you buy it after the fact, it is around $100 or a touch more...

    Ray Cooper
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    2007 Hummer H3(DW)
    2007 Fleetwood Evolution E3
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    Mine is also a 10 ft box with the center brace. I cut where the 4 white buttons were. No need for any silicone, that may even be a bad thing. Follow the instructions and all is well. Family RV is very helpful with phone assistance. I would recommend ordering from them.

    06 Fleetwood Graphite
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    Hi onec again

    Here is a link to Family RVand the airv low pro unit. They have a EBay store or if you like you can call them to. My airv was drop shiped and I had it in 3 or so days after ordering. Just remember that you have to order the inside cover..

    Ray Cooper
    Tigard OR

    2007 Hummer H3(DW)
    2007 Fleetwood Evolution E3
    The boys... Buddy, Toby, Ralphie, Sammy, & D.B."Cooper"

    Edited by - grcooperjr on December 19 2007 15:36:28
     
  13. Kelly and Karl

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    I just found a really good deal on a new-in-box pre-owned carrier. I'm looking to install it in my 93 Coleman Destiny Royale )10' box). There are the 4 buttons marking a 14" opening, so cutting that hole should be a snap, right? How thick is this roof that I'm cutting?
    Also, there isn't a "brace" like in the newer ones. My owner's manual states that I can put 150lbs (I think I'm remembering that figure right) and the Carrier is under 100. Will I need a brace? If so, any recommendations on what to use and how to install it?
    Thanks!
     
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    The roof should only be about an inch to maybe 2 inches thick and i would highly recommend braces they are not so much there to hold the weight up your roof should sustain that but as you are going down the road hitting bumps the roof will want to flex more due to the added weight in the one spot that flexing could lead to big problems I think the dealer is prob gonna want somewhere around 100.00 for these braces but if you have a black smith nearby that should be able to fab you some up for half of that granted you will have to do some paint work one other recommendation if you have not already i would say get a new gasket for the a/c i think they are a one time thing and it would be a real shame to hear you did all this work and find out that ten dollar gasket is not sealing correctly

    Joey
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    Joey, thanks, and good point on both the brackets and the gasket. The gasket is "new" meaning never installed, but I have no idea how old the unit really is. And as for the braces, I'm a regular Picasso with the Krylon, and I have a neighbor who is a welder - and I think he'll work for beer. Once I get a free weekend I'll let y'all know how she turns out.
     
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    still pondering this one... Does anybody have pics of thier install?

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