Coleman outside stove

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  1. scottveazie

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    So my new to me 98 Coleman bayside has the outside stove, but the hose is gone for it. Any idea what kind of hose I need to fix it? It is missing from the crimp at the hose on.
     
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    Posting a picture or two would help us identify the stove and what you need.
     
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    IMG_1015.JPG IMG_1016.JPG No problem. The stoves hose is long gone, I opened it up and it looks like it's missing from the crimp onward. The connection on the trailer is a screw connection
     
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    Here's a link to the Parts Book for your PUP:

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0273/4347/files/1998_coleman_grand_tour.pdf?16695232820753828628

    (The cover says "Bayport" but the floor plan says "Bayside".)

    Page 27 shows the parts for the outside stove connection and only calls it a "cylinder adapter". Your picture for the brass fitting looks like it might be a 1" x 20 which is the same treads as a small disposable bottle. Is the propane connection at the side of the PUP the same type of fitting? Whatever hose you get, make sure it is high pressure. (Everything inside the PUP is low pressure.)
     
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    Can you post a picture of the fitting where it connects to the stove?
     
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    The picture of the threads is the connection at the pup. The stove end has the crimp but the hose that would be in the crimp is gone.
     
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    standard high pressure hose, can still be purchased at any walmart, amazon etc. It will be a black hose, withe brass ends, and there is a finger in the middle
     
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    Problem is I think it was always attached via crimp to the stove end, as seen on page 25 part number 10
     
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    Check what Boatnman says: you will probably find that there is a removable nut beyond the crimp where it attaches to the stove. Not many manufacturers are crazy enough to have the hose not be replaceable.. :eek:
    I have the same setup on my pup and I'm pretty sure that the HP hose on the stove is removable.
     
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    IMG_1029.JPG Just tried to unscrew it. No dice, it's a double crimp.
     
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    Do my eyes deceive me or does there appear to be a hex head upline of the crimp between the hose and the stove fitting??
     
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    As far as I can tell it's just rounded off, nothing to loosen
     
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    Well then, I guess we found a manufacturer that was crazy enough to make the hose a non-replaceable item!

    "As the designers studied the plans for their new external camper cooktop, they realized there was a terrible flaw - one that would deprive them of ongoing income ever-after. "Why do we have a replaceable gas line on this thing? Let's use a fixed crimp-on design and we'll be selling whole replacement burner assemblies like crazy and be rich!" Little did they know that consumers wouldn't shell out their hard earned dough for a seldom-used optional appliance part. They were out of business five years later.

    Urban legend has it that many of the designers went on to be software security engineers for Microsoft."
     
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    theseus Centerville, OH

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    I have this stove. Mine does have a removable hose. I need to tighten it. I am getting a whiff of propane when the stove is off. I'm going to have to hunt until I find the leak. A new stove insert is $200 from colemanpopupparts.com
     
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    And it probably cost them more to manufacture it that way.

    Maybe a metal fabrication shop could modify where the crimp is attached to a standard brass fitting for less than $200.
     
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    Do you have the exact same stove? I'm tempted to get a regular camp stove and affix it to a larger table
     
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    theseus Centerville, OH

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    Looks just like that one in the picture. I noted the threaded nut when I was looking for the leak...
     
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    The crimped connection that is shown in your last pic -- is that on the stove end? Where does that hose go?
     
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    That's the stove end, main feed for both burners.
     

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