Do You Have An Axle??

Discussion in 'Tires / Brakes / Bearings / Axles' started by sawdusty, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. sawdusty

    sawdusty San Antonio

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    I encounter a gentleman today who stated and I quote, "MOST POP UPS DON'T HAVE AN AXLE, THEY USE TWO SEPARATE MOUNTS WITH A COIL SPRING." What the heck? Anyone here consider that statement to be true?
     
  2. xxxapache

    xxxapache Well-Known Member

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    Never saw one like that.
     
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  3. nineoaks2004

    nineoaks2004 Every meal is a picnic and every Day is a holiday

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    Every PUP or TT have seen or worked on had an axle..
     
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  4. crackerJack

    crackerJack Active Member

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    He is wrong.
     
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  5. Ductape

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    Is he from Australia ?
     
  6. BikeNFish

    BikeNFish Well-Known Member

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    He couldn't be more wrong. Was this a salesman or just a guy talking out of his butt?
     
  7. f5moab

    f5moab Retired from the Federal Government

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    Yes, they do make trailers without axles. Timbren has a set up. Definitely not common.


    http://timbren.com/axle-less/

    And for those who hate backing up a trailer there is a trailer with only one tire and no axle.


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  8. Jeep Guy

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    My 2009 Starcraft has a solid axle with leaf springs. I cannot imagine that a camper manufacturer would use independent suspension with coils.
     
  9. BikeNFish

    BikeNFish Well-Known Member

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    I had no doubt that this was true, I even did a very quick search just to see what that would look like (found nothing in the top five responses so I moved on), but to say, "Most pop ups don't have an axle" is talking out of his butt.
     
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  10. BikeNFish

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    I could see it as a useful application if you wanted to take your pup way off-road.
     
  11. f5moab

    f5moab Retired from the Federal Government

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    Most of the trailer axles used on popups are only a straight bar/tube, with a slight curve in the middle with spindles welded on each side of the tube/bar and some spring mounts, unless they are the torflex designed with no springs. I imagine there are some popups with drop axles.
     
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  12. sawdusty

    sawdusty San Antonio

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    This is what he is talking about. Has it on his Dutchman. I am under the impression it is a modification to his and therefore his statement that most pop ups don't have an axle reflects his lack of knowledge.
     
  13. SteveP

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    Independent coil spring suspension is more common overseas. I first saw it on Australian off road pups.
     
  14. f5moab

    f5moab Retired from the Federal Government

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    They would be fantastic on a off-road trailer. I know on my trailer's lowest clearance is between the axle and the ground at approx. 12" (+/- .5") whereas the frame to the ground is 23.25".
     
  15. 1380ken

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    It would we good for autocross racing with a trailer
     
  16. sawdusty

    sawdusty San Antonio

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    I failed to put the link on my post: DUH! https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Axles/Timbren/A35RS545.html
     
  17. roybraddy

    roybraddy Well-Known Member

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    I would love to have setup like this on my off-road POPUP... This is from down-under...

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  18. yetavon

    yetavon everything is better around a campfire.

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    Someone on here built one for off road that used independent suspension.
     
  19. Raycfe

    Raycfe Waterford Ct.

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    Sounds like way over kill for a camper.
     
  20. BikeNFish

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    Thirty-some years ago, a buddy of mine and I took a tent camping road trip to explore Colorado and for a couple of nights, we stayed in a small, undeveloped, free campground in the Collegiate Range. It was remote and there were no facilities for the dozen or so marked spots. The only way to get back to the campsites was by four wheel drive vehicle because the road into the campground was VERY rocky. But when we made it back to the campsites, guess what was there in the only occupied spot? A pop up! I still don't know how the owners got it back there without damaging that camper, but there it was. The pup was just a run of the mill pup with your leaf spring suspension, but if a pup ever needed independent and heavy duty suspension, this one was it!
     

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