Hitch Weight

Discussion in 'Etrailer.com Trailers and Towing Forum' started by Nani2, Jul 28, 2018.

  1. Nani2

    Nani2 Active Member

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    I will be towing with minivan rated at 3500 lbs towing.
    Is a 289 hitch weight too high? It’s a 2200 lb popup.
    Would I be better with a low to mid 200 or does it make a difference?
     
  2. joet

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    What does Toyota say the max hitch weight is for the van?
     
  3. LjohnSaw

    LjohnSaw So many fish, so little time...

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    You want 10% to 15% on the hitch. You are right in the middle. Too little and you will get BAD sway. Too much and your minivan will sag. What about your total weight on the minivan (I forget which GVW-type number that is)? Make sure you don't overload the van with people and gear.
     
  4. mattlreese

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    I tow a 2500 lb dry popup with a chrysler pacifica without any issues. Max tong weight is 300 lbs on mini vans. I think you will be fine, and you can add a sway bar if you are concerned. My dealer installed a saw bar when I bought my popup.

    Disclaimer I have not towed at altitude I live on the east coast. I would not consider towing my popup with the minivan above 5000 ft.
     
  5. joet

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    Is a 289 hitch weight too high? It’s a 2200 lb popup.
    Would I be better with a low to mid 200 or does it make a difference?[/QUOTE]
    Is the pups TOTAL weight 2200 with a 289 tongue weight loaded with everything you will take camping?? Or are you trying to use a dry weight??
    If you are using the dry weight....you will be over weight.
     
  6. Nani2

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    It says stay between 9-11%. Eleven percent of max 3500 would be 385 but no way would we go that high.
     
  7. Nani2

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    We have about 1200 lbs cushion.
     
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    Is the pups TOTAL weight 2200 with a 289 tongue weight loaded with everything you will take camping?? Or are you trying to use a dry weight??
    If you are using the dry weight....you will be over weight.[/QUOTE]
    I don’t see how I would be overweight. From husky towing calculator we have over 1000 lbs after the van, camper, us and gear.
     
  9. jnc

    jnc Welcome from New Hampshire

    I did a quick search and found a listing that with a 3500 lb hitch you should be good up to 350 lbs on the tongue. That being said I would never go near 300 with a Toyota Sienna.
     
  10. joet

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    If the total weight is only 2200lbs, you will be ok
     
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  11. emoney

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    Check the manufactures specs first. Have the pup weighed at the local truck stop then decide. GVWR is important because Toyota rated towing with one driver. Add in 3 passengers and you lose 400-600lbs off bat. Sometimes, just because it will doesn’t mean it should.
     
  12. jmkay1

    jmkay1 2004 Fleetwood/Coleman Utah

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    Just like emoney mentioned Toyota only used the driver and a full tank of gas in their numbers. So you will have to deduct the weight of passengers and gear. Also like mentioned below if you are using dry weight of the popup it may not include the weight of options such as AC, furnace, propane or battery weight. If you do use the dry weight you will need to add the carry cappacity number to the dry weight at the very least. Or see if you are able to get the unit weighed so you can get the "real weight" numbers (ideal).
     
  13. rabird

    rabird Howdy!

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    I believe the sienna is just another vehicle where the tow rating is not based on a 150 lb driver.
     
  14. Rusty2192

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    With airbags or other means, you should be fine at that tongue weight. I think if I were to approach 300+, I would start researching WDHs to see if the trailer could handle one.

    Exactly, everybody should check their manufacturer’s specs. With the OP’s TV, the trailer weight rating is calculated with the driver, 1 passenger, and a tow package. Plus, there is a lot of overhead in the GCWR over the rated towing capacity, to the tune of around 800 lbs. The math on our Sienna, which is very similar to the OP’s is below. Obviously the payload (including tongue weight) and axle ratings would need to be checked too for the full picture. These numbers are also SAE J2807 certified.

     
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    You will be fine with that weight. Before you go for the first time, check the rear end sag in the van and address if needed. You won't have any issues towing with that van if you set it up for level and so the van rear end doesn't sag too much. You will also be fine towing at altitude with that set up. The van in question has almost 300 HP and plenty of torque. Minivans are very capable tow vehicles when properly set up.
     
  17. Nani2

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    Thank you all for the advice. We are still considering this popup thanks to your encouragement.
    I hope I get some experience and can help like so many here have done for me.
     
  18. Nani2

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    I think you're right because max capacity of van is about 6000 but total combined is 8900. So I can't have 6000 in van and max 3500 in trailer because that would be 9500. Must be that new math.
     
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    I've called a few dealers this site gives based on my zip code and they will not install on Sienna. They say they go inside the coil springs and they won't do that.
     
  20. Rusty2192

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    They do go inside the springs, but the bags slip between the coils, so a really easy install.

     

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