Installing Radio

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  1. phipps

    phipps New Member

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    I am thinking of installing a car stereo in my camper with 2 external speakers mounted in the sidewall under the awning. I am looking for pictures of such an installation. Suggestions for speakers to use as well as how to weather proof them would be appreciated as well!!

    Gary N8WSQ

    Charlotte DW
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  2. nfisherman

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    If you're installing them outside, use marine speakers. You can find them at Best Buy, Crutchfield, etc.

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    I am thinking of installing a car stereo in my camper with 2 external speakers mounted in the sidewall under the awning. I am looking for pictures of such an installation. Suggestions for speakers to use as well as how to weather proof them would be appreciated as well!!

    Gary N8WSQ

    Charlotte DW
    Gary Lee DS
    Kortney DD

    1997 GMC Sierra
    1997 Camplite 2218

    www.geocaching.com
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  3. Here are some pictures of the speakers I installed. I don't have a stereo, just amplifiers that I can hook up external sources (like my iPod) to:

    Outside speakers

    <img src="http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/37172/2171726150101305190S500x500Q85.jpg" border=0>

    Inside speakers

    <img src="http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/42309/2905404780101305190S500x500Q85.jpg" border=0>

    subwoofer <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Evil">

    <img src="http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/41450/2942988250101305190S500x500Q85.jpg" border=0>


    I used MTX marine speakers. They can handle the elements. to seal them up, you just have to bed them in putty tape:

    <img src="http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/42502/2067048680101305190S500x500Q85.jpg" border=0>

    Just make sure you verify the speaker connections <i>before</i> you put the speakers in the putty tape. You don't want to have to pull them off again! <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_sarcastic.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Sarcastic">


    Joe

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  4. phipps

    phipps New Member

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    Are most PUP walls filled with the styrofoam? I was concerned that if mine are hollow they may not be able to support the weight of the speakers.

    Gary N8WSQ

    Charlotte DW
    Gary Lee DS
    Kortney DD

    1997 GMC Sierra
    1997 Camplite 2218

    www.geocaching.com
     
  5. No, not all pup's are filled with styrofoam. Some are hollow.

    BUT

    The speaker doesn't weigh that much. It's designed for a boat hull and has clips to hold it in place that would fit on 1/8" panels.


    Joe

    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp">'96 Rockwood Signature Series 1280
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle">'07 Ford Explorer

    <i>Wherever you go, there you are.</i>
     
  6. Jeremy

    Jeremy New Member

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    why not keep it simple and go with indoor/outdoor bookshelf type speakers?
    <img src="http://www.circuitcity.com/IMAGE/product/detail/ele/EC.ELE.EOD4.CN.JPG" border=0>

    I installed my stereo inside the camper, but ran speaker wires outside under the camper and have some mounting screws on the frame of my PU. Takes about 2 minutes to attach the speakers when we setup. No cutting holes in the side of the camper.

    <img src="http://www.hortonsonline.com/photos/albums/userpics/normal_100_2249.JPG" border=0>
    <img src="http://www.hortonsonline.com/photos/albums/userpics/normal_100_2252.JPG" border=0>

    We use the aux input on the radio for our iPod and the radio has a remote so we can adjust volume up and down from outside the camper.
    Circuit City has them really cheap.

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    Heather - 29
    Savannah - 2ish
    Trenton - >1
    Otis - (Camping pup) 6
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    Edited by - Jeremy on May 27 2008 22:50:59
     
  7. jwrigley

    jwrigley New Member

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    Where are you mounting the antenna at on the PUP?
    Im thinking of installing a radio on my PUP but im looking for options for the antenna.

    Jeremy
    98 Jayco Eagle <img src="/images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif" border=0>
    04 GMC 1500 <img src="/images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif" border=0>
     
  8. kmh1596

    kmh1596 Wilbraham, MA

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    FWIW, I used a marine antenna from ebay, which has a long wire attached to it, so you just run the wire as far away as you can with what they give you. I attached it around the cabinet the radio is in, all inside.. Works very well for me, and I didn't have to mess with setting up a regular car antenna, etc..

    As for outside speakers, I have considered the idea you're talking about, so the speakers are overhead, but in the meantime I just attached one to my outside table I made. I was also thinking of some lights mounted beside the awning, aiming in, so we could have some light at night when needed...

    *Kevin*
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    Nights Booked 08: 25, Camped so far: 10
     
  9. jenna-joe

    jenna-joe New Member

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    please excuse the dumb question, but how do you get power? does it run off the converter, or do you have to have a battery in your pup to run it off??
    ~Jenna
     
  10. Dredwolf

    Dredwolf New Member

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    Once the roof is done, I have GOT to do this...I have a Bazooka TVB-141 and amp that needs a home....not that I would actually "crank it up"...but to simply see the looks when the box gets set under the front bunk with the coolers. <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Evil">

    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle">1995 GMC G2500 or whatever runs..
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp">1998 Flagstaff (It has finally been used!!!)
    And too many family members and pets to list at this time
    Nights camped in 2008: 2
    Nights booked in 2008: 9! DW keeps planning trips!
     
  11. kmh1596

    kmh1596 Wilbraham, MA

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    jenna-joe, I personally grabbed 12v power from the outside porch light. The + and - for that light come up by the door and run under the camper, so it was an easy place to get power from. I'm glad I put it in, because on a rainy camping day, or even if we're on our own in the middle of a campground, some calming music <i>can</i> add to the experience, IMO.

    *Kevin*
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp"> 2004 Rockwood 1940 LTD, <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle"> 96 Cherokee 2dr 5spd, <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_canoe.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Canoe"> ~16' Old Town Canoe
    Nights Booked 08: 27, Camped so far: 10
     
  12. jenna-joe

    jenna-joe New Member

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    Unfortunately we do not have a outside light.. <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Sad"> is there another way to hook up the power? <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_confused.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Confused"> We would love to install a outside light if someone can advise us how to install one of these as well. <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Wink">
    Thanks to this site we have already replaced our door handle, fixed the lights and got some great ideas to do this weekend for shelves.. <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_happycamper.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Happy Camper">

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  13. Jeremy

    Jeremy New Member

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    I mounted my antenna on my rear bumper. Routed the wire up the frame and into the camper through the floor into one of the cabinets by the radio.

    <img src="http://www.hortonsonline.com/photos/albums/userpics/normal_100_1958.JPG" border=0>

    I tapped power behind the fridge cabinet where the ceiling light power wires are run.

    Jeremy - 32
    Heather - 29
    Savannah - 2ish
    Trenton - >1
    Otis - (Camping pup) 6
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    TV: 2007 Chevy Trailblazer LT V8

    Edited by - Jeremy on May 28 2008 23:21:56
     
  14. Jenna, If your converter is original to your '95 Destiny Royale, then <b>don't</b> connect a stereo (or any other sensitive electronics) directly to it. You would need to run off of the battery. The reason being that older converters don't have filtered 12V output, and would likely fry a stereo (or treasured Alpine amp <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Disapprove"> ).

    I originally had my equipment hooked directly to the batteries, but that was a pain in the butt, so I installed a new converter. It runs the electronics just fine.

    Dredwolf, hide the sub under your camper. Trust me, <b>no one</b> expects that to come from a popup. They usually glare at the 5'ers <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Evil">


    Joe

    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp">'96 Rockwood Signature Series 1280
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle">'07 Ford Explorer

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  15. vnconn

    vnconn New Member

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    Jwrigley, did you ever install a radio on the PUP? That is something Eliot always wanted to do but never got around to it, I just wondered how it turned out.

    Friends of ours installed a radio in the camper and ran the speaker wires down to the frame where they installed the speaker brackets (Like Jeremy from here did). They just hook the speakers up when they get to the campsite and try to remember to unhook them when they leave :)

    Valerie & Eliot
     
  16. jwrigley

    jwrigley New Member

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    Valerie we have not installed the radio yet. Im still looking for a decent deal on a radio/cd/dvd unit.

    I did install a new faucet last weekend and this weekend I plan to install a freshwater tank and electric pump provided UPS shows up today or tomorrow. Once that job is done I plan on getting started on the radio project again.

    Maybe one of these days we will actualy get to take it out camping LOL. Seems like we have something going on every weekend.

    Jeremy
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  17. christate1970

    christate1970 New Member

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    An easy way to get sound in your PU is to find a set of computer speakers that run on DC current, then get a 12 volt cig lighter power supply that has changeable ends and adjustable power output. Set the power to the speakers requirements, usually 9-12 Volts and match the plug at the end of the cord to the one that came with the speakers. The speakers audio plug will go right into your Ipod.

    2005 Kia Sorento
    1980 Coleman

    Edited by - christate1970 on June 20 2008 12:15:03
     
  18. ehcarmen

    ehcarmen New Member

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    Joe -

    I read what you wrote about NOT adding any sound equipment to an older converter. Mine is original 1985. I was thinking of taking the same approach you did and adding an amp/sub/speakers to mine, but, after reading what you wrote, it doesn't sound like you should, because it is not filtered.

    Is there anything you could buy to protect the amp? Would a fuse do it (10A), or si there some sort of filter at all I could buy at Radio Shack?

    I would love to do it, dragging the radio with us every time is just one MORE thing to remember.

    Thanks!

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    1985 Palomino CSX Hardsider - "Memory Maker"
     
  19. Kelly and Karl

    Kelly and Karl New Member

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    Kelly and I bought a cool little battery operated radio specifically for our PU. We can plug it in when we have hookups, or it runs on 6 AA batteries. It's real small, has an ipod dock, am/fm, and a clock/alarm. I know $150 is a little steep for a portable radio, but it sounds incredible. It's a Tivoli iSongBook, and we got it at Sears. We have a Tivoli Model 1 in our kitchen, and it sounds like a much larger system than it is, so I figured the iSongBook must be better since it has twice as many speakers! Which reminds me, one of them is removable, so you can stretch it out for even bigger sound. I was going to go the computer speakers route, but my wife got to 'em first, and now they're on her computer desk. Kinda glad, now. Check out the Tivoli website to get a better idea, and don't write it off 'til you hear it first. I think you'll be quite impressed.
    Oh yeah, it's also weather-proof. Bonus if you're going to bring it outside too, like we do.
    Wow, Tivoli should sponsor me as their spokesman!
     
  20. Gerry

    Gerry New Member

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    For Christmas, I got a Bacini Acoustica portable system from Sears. This unit is totally Awesome. I would nearly compare it to the Apple Hi-Fi, or the Bose IPOD system, for 1/3 the price. It is run on either A/C or it's own rechargeable battery. It has 2 speakers that sound great. It can play either directly through an IPOD or Wireless Transmitter hooked to any source with a headphone Jack. I run it through my 30g IPOD and have 5700 commercial free tracks of all my favorite genres of music. It has 3 channels so that you can choose what one you want. Best part is...I have 3 of them now and can put one inside PUP and one outside PUP for complete coverage and run both on the same channel. Completely Awesome find for $100 each.

    1971 Starcraft Starmaster 8
    2003 Dodge Dakota

    DW Joy
    Mascots...Twin Pink Flamingos...Laverne & Shirley

    Gerry

    Edited by - Gerry on June 23 2008 20:27:35
     

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