need help installing a battery to my popup

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  1. syber1

    syber1 New Member

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    Hi everyone.
    I am fairly new here in the forum and I just got back from my first camping trip with my first popup.
    My girlfriend and I camped in a camp ground with no hook ups. Just the tent trailer and some flash lights for the night and bottle water for drinking. We only camped for 2 nights since it was our first trip. Needless to say we had a blast with our popup.
    After our trip, I’d realized that we could use the lights inside the tent trailer for night time. So I am now in a process of starting my first project to install a battery for our popup.
    I need help on how to install a battery to the power converter. The converter is Magnetek power converter model 6406 which I believe came with the tent trailer. Oh and my tent trailer is a 1991 Coleman Chesapeake.
    Any help would be appreciated.
    Thank you in advance.

    1991 Coleman Chesapeake
    2003 1500HD Chevy Silverado Crew cab
    Canoga Park CA
     
  2. tnchuck100

    tnchuck100 New Member

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    I will assume you have already looked and there is no pre-existing mount for a battery.

    Get a group 24 or 27 deep cycle battery. Get an appropriate size battery box and mount it on the tongue.

    Using #10 wire (black) from the positive battery terminal to the red wire at the converter. Install a 30 amp in-line fuse near the battery. Adding a battery cut-out switch is a good idea also.

    Run a #10 wire (white) from the negative battery terminal to either the frame or the white wire at the converter.

    <font color=blue>Chuck & Mary - Sparta, Tennessee
    '00 Dodge Dakota <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle"> '05 Palomino Pony 280 <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp">
    '03 Harley Davidson Ultra Classic <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_bike.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Bicycle"> '04 Timeout <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp"></font id=blue>
     
  3. rccs

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    Your Coleman popup should have a small white plug coming out of the frame near the hitch that is for hooking up the battery. It should have a black and a white wire in it. A Fleetwood dealer would have a wiring harness that is made to hook up the battery to the camper and it has a built in circuit breaker installed and terminals on the ends to hook to your deep cycle battery. The black wire is the positive + and the white wire is the negative - on the wiring for the battery. As far as mounting the battery to the tongue of the trailer many people just go to Home Depot or another building supply store and get a couple of pieces of angle iron and mount them to the tongue of the trailer for the battery box to sit on an so it can be tied down safely.
     
  4. On the back of your converter, there will be a set of red (+) and white (-) wires coming out of the back that are bigger than all of the other wires. Connect them to your battery. Use minimum 10 gauge wire. Install a fuse on the (+) lead. I also highly recommend a 20-50A kill switch on the (+) lead as well.


    Joe

    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp">'96 Rockwood Signature Series 1280
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle">'07 Ford Explorer
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  5. syber1

    syber1 New Member

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    Thank you for the quick reply, you guys are awesome. I opened and pulled the converter out already just to see what connections it has in the back. I will go buy all the wiring first and wire it to a battery, test it then I'll go and buy the battery casing and attach it to the trailer.

    I never even thought about the fuses.haha so thank you guys, I will take pictures and post them as I go.

    -edwin

    1991 Coleman Chesapeake
    2003 1500HD Chevy Silverado Crew cab
    Canoga Park CA
     
  6. syber1

    syber1 New Member

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    ok guys, scratch my last post, Rccs is right, there is a prewire for the battery by the hitch. Now I just need to install the battery and attach it to the trailer. I will take a pictures of the finished project.

    1991 Coleman Chesapeake
    2003 1500HD Chevy Silverado Crew cab
    Canoga Park CA
     
  7. Michel

    Michel New Member

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    Okay, here is a related question. If you have a deep-cycle battery (and I know there are different MCA ratings and different "minutes of reserve capacity") and are using it to run the light inside and are using the propane fridge and furnace, how long does a charge last on the battery? Will one battery last for a couple of days? Sorry if I am a bit off-topic.
     
  8. The X factor in that question is the furnace. The fan draws about 4 amps while running. The fridge on propane doesn't draw any electricity, so it's a non-factor. The lights will last for days an a standard 75-100 Ah battery.


    Joe

    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp">'96 Rockwood Signature Series 1280
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle">'07 Ford Explorer
    <i>Wherever you go, there you are.</i>
     
  9. Michel

    Michel New Member

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    Thanks Joe!

    Okay, so four days (give or take) with only the fridge and light. If I have to use the furnace during the night, that would shave off a day or two?

    Michel
     
  10. tnchuck100

    tnchuck100 New Member

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    Michel,

    Here is a wealth of information on battery use:

    12 Volt Side of Life

    <font color=blue>Chuck & Mary - Sparta, Tennessee
    '00 Dodge Dakota <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle"> '05 Palomino Pony 280 <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp">
    '03 Harley Davidson Ultra Classic <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_bike.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Bicycle"> '04 Timeout <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp"></font id=blue>

    Edited by - tnchuck100 on July 03 2008 14:17:32
     
  11. jdeniro

    jdeniro New Member

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    I too have the same set up, did you ever take that picture once the wiring was completed?? If so, I would love to see it!!
     
  12. abwa269

    abwa269 New Member

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    I know this one has been dead for a while, but I have a similar set up with a 1995 coleman cedar. It looks like there are two wires that come out near the hitch )along with the harness) I will check the color on the cables. What I am wondering is if this trailers power is setup to charge the battery when plugged into 110V power. or am i going to have to get a charger to recharge after each trip? I just printed up the manual and i didnt see too much info on this.

    thank you
     
  13. rabird

    rabird Howdy!

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    abwa269

    unlikely. get a charger.

    add your trailer info to your signature, create a new post and ask how to determine!
     

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