New Coleman Sea Pine owner

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by LucythePUP, Nov 27, 2018.

  1. LucythePUP

    LucythePUP New Member

    Nov 27, 2018
    Hello I'm Ben and I just purchased my first camper, a 1997 Coleman by Fleetwood Sea Pine (aka Lucy) yesterday, graduating from tent camping. We're a family of five in Maryland and I grew up camping with my family in a pop up camper and loved it.

    When I first started looking at pop up campers I knew it would need to have AC for the wife and kids (ages 2, 8 and 11), and I also wanted a slide out and a front storage compartment. Other than that it needed to be in good condition, ready to go camping.

    Eventually I decided against the slide out and storage compartment since we'll be towing with a Honda Odyssey minivan and didn't want the extra weight. I figure this is our first "starter" camper and we can always upgrade later. When I found the Sea Pine for sale I started looking into it and liked that the base vehicle weight is 1,545 which I think is a reasonable starting point before gear, etc.

    I'm sure most of my posts on here will be related to questions and concerns about towing with a minivan and asking what others have done.
  2. BikeNFish

    BikeNFish Well-Known Member

    Apr 24, 2017
    Maplewood, MN
    Hello and welcome from Minnesota! Congratulations on the graduation!!

    I also ruled out a slide out when I was looking, not because of a weight issue, but instead, the loss of storage space in the pup when the slide out is in the travel mode.
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  3. fourhallatts

    fourhallatts Active Member

    Jul 18, 2015
    North Syracuse, New York
    Welcome to the portal from Central NY. Happy camping.
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  4. PopUpSteve

    PopUpSteve Administrator

    Dec 22, 2002
    Malvern, PA
    Welcome to PopUpPortal.
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  5. nineoaks2004

    nineoaks2004 Every meal is a picnic and every Day is a holiday

    Oct 15, 2006
    Graceville, Florida
    Welcome from N/W Fl Panhandle and congrats on the NTU PUP. Take the time to get to know everything about the unit especially the set up and take down. I bet the kids are excited and ready to start camping. Good luck and Happy Camping
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  6. Raycfe

    Raycfe Waterford Ct.

    Oct 3, 2007
    Waterford, Ct
    Greetings from the Connecticut shoreline.
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  7. FARfetched

    FARfetched Active Member

    Welcome from Georgia!

    Sounds like you found something similar to what I need in a popup, weight-wise. Our tow vehicle-to-be is limited to 2000 lbs tow weight. 1600 dry would let us keep it loaded. I loved the first pup I looked at ('98 Coleman Bayside), but it weighs 2600 lbs dry.

    About minivans: we've had four, and the primary failure point (3 out of 4) were the transmissions. Personally, I think they put sedan drivetrains in a heavier vehicle, but I'm spitballing. Anyway, some minivans have built-in transmission coolers, integrated with the radiator… and if you get a crack in the right place, you can end up with a tranny full of radiator fluid (ask me how I know). See if you can get one separate from the radiator… and especially get one if it's not there already. It's cheap insurance—$40-$50 plus installation, and they aren't that hard to install.

    I'd love to get a full-size conversion van for a TV, but the wife has nixed the idea.
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  8. megcabra

    megcabra Well-Known Member

    Welcome and greetings from North Carolina to the exciting world of Pop-Up camping!
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  9. kcsa75

    kcsa75 Well-Known Member

    Sep 9, 2013
    Kansas City
    Congratulations on the NTU Pup and Welcome to the forum from Midway USA. [:)C]
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  10. WrkrBee

    WrkrBee Well-Known Member

    May 23, 2018
    South Carolina
    Welcome to the Portal from South Carolina.
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  11. joet

    joet Well-Known Member

    Mar 16, 2011
    Elkins WV area
    Welcome from the mountains of West Virginia
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  12. Shaman1

    Shaman1 Well-Known Member

    May 13, 2011
    Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
    Welcome from Oklahoma.
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  13. GreyFox

    GreyFox Active Member

    Oct 10, 2018
    S Ontario
    Years ago we towed our 2000 Santa Fe (~ 2500 lbs fully loaded & ready to camp) with a Caravan and predictably it's transmission did fail. To be fair, it did by that time have 160,000 km (~100,000 miles) on it but shouldn't have failed so prematurely. My current 1/2 ton Silverado has 150,000 km, has no issues I'm aware of, and I expect will continue to tow at least twice this without any concerns. Minivans serve a purpose but IMO towing isn't one of them.
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  14. crackerJack

    crackerJack Well-Known Member

    Jan 6, 2014
    Scottsville, KY
    Welcome from Southern Kentucky.
    Towing with a minivan can be challenging. Just because you can make the numbers work doesn’t mean that the experience will be “pleasant”.
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  15. LucythePUP

    LucythePUP New Member

    Nov 27, 2018
    Thanks for the warm welcome and the feedback about using a minivan as a TV. The pup is going in the garage in a few weeks until spring so I've got some time to weigh my towing options.
  16. LucythePUP

    LucythePUP New Member

    Nov 27, 2018
    For Colemans, the site below has been helpful. Choose a year and it will open the brochure with all of the model specs for that year including layout plans, base weight and much more info. So it would give you an idea of which lower weight models to target.
  17. jmkay1

    jmkay1 2004 Fleetwood/Coleman Utah

    Oct 10, 2013
    Northern Virginia
    Welcome from your neighbor in northern Virginia and a fellow fleetwood owner. When I was growing up we towed a popup with a minivan and the only problem we had was stopping a camper without breaks and a bad squat. Back then campers didn't come with breaks especially ones considered lightweight. Thank goodness this has changed for the most part. The squat is common on minivans and many have put airbags on the van to help. You may also want to look into getting a transmission cooler.
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  18. LucythePUP

    LucythePUP New Member

    Nov 27, 2018
    Thanks! A transmission cooler and a Timbren suspension enhancement system are on my shopping list before next spring.
  19. tzmartin

    tzmartin Active Member

    Sep 9, 2015
    The timbren system is great. You may want to go ahead and replace your shocks at the same time.
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  20. JunieB

    JunieB Active Member

    May 8, 2018
    Central Florida
    Welcome to the forum!
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