Pop up under 2,000 pounds

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  1. peanut01

    peanut01 New Member

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    Any suggestions on pop up under 2,000 pounds?
     
  2. Michel

    Michel New Member

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    Are you looking for new or used?
     
  3. You-And-I

    You-And-I Ozarks Überland Basecamp

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    Just curious, what type of tow vehicle are you pulling with?

    Alan & Christine
    48 Days Camping 2007
    Bell Canoe
    Tentrax A.T.Off Road Camper
    Jeep Wrangler/Sahara <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_jeep.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Jeep">
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  4. JamesRL

    JamesRL New Member

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    Well several rules of thumb, and do you mean under 2000 lbs with all your gear, water, propane? Will you have AC? Fridge? Furnace? Hot water heater (all of which weigh a considerable amount an usually aren't included in the dry weight figures).

    Most popups with an 8 foot box are under 2000 lbs, even when loaded. Most manufacturers have one.

    Some newer 10 foot box pop-ups are under that too - Livin Lite 10.0, Palomino Real Lite (US model name is different). And in general many older popups weigh less. Do not even look at a hard side or high wall, or a popup with a shower - they will tend to be over.

    Many older popups seem to weigh less than new ones. I think part of that may have to do with accessories.

    James

    1976 Lionel LPL 80
    2002 Mazda MPV
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  5. Michel

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    My 1996 Dutchmen "Duck" weighed in at 600 kilos (roughly 1300 pounds) when I took it to the weigh scale to be weighed for insurance purposes. It was empty, including no propane in the tank, and no water in the reservoir.

    Edited by - Michel on July 09 2008 23:42:29
     
  6. Unstable_Tripod

    Unstable_Tripod Well, there's your problem!

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    My Fleetwood Yuma is rated at around 1500-1600 pounds empty. I like to keep things simple and travel light so I suspect I'm pretty close to 2000 pounds loaded. The Yuma is a 10-foot box. It has a small fridge, 10-gallon water tank and a water heater.

    1998 Explorer Sport & 2007 Fleetwood Yuma
     
  7. peanut01

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    New or used if in good condition.

    We will be towing with a 2005 Saab 9-3. Specs state 2,000 tow weight.
     
  8. JamesRL

    JamesRL New Member

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    Just for fun, I looked up this car on the net and found that there was an available tow package and with that the limit was ...3500 lbs.

    What you might do is call Saab or a dealer, and find out what was in the package. A transmission cooler is a good bet, maybe improved shocks, maybe beefed up electricals.

    The good news is you can add a tranny cooler and improved shocks easily.

    Only then would I think about towing something that weighs even 2000lbs. Many people here believ in a good margin for safety. I know my van is rated for 3500 lbs with tow package and even after a tranny cooler, I won't think of a popup heavier than 2000lbs (plus 500 pounds of gear).

    The other factor you want to consider is drivability. More experienced hands than I will tell you that a short wheel base tow vehicle and a large long trailer add up to sway .

    James

    1976 Lionel LPL 80
    2002 Mazda MPV
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  9. rob and trish

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    Our 08 Fleetwood Sedona is 1550 lbs with roof mount A/C, 3-way fridge, 10 gal water tank. It is the 8ft model. We also tend to pack light, but have a pickup truck to tow it with. (Put most of gear in the back of the truck) Hey Unstable Tripod, DW and I are leaving Sunday the 13th to be in Seattle (Spanaway) on the 26th, with the pup in tow, visiting family.

    Rob

    2007 Ford F-150 SuperCab <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle">
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  10. peanut01

    peanut01 New Member

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    Thank you for the info!

    Loree
     
  11. Unstable_Tripod

    Unstable_Tripod Well, there's your problem!

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    Hi Rob and Trish,

    The weather up here is absolutely great right now. You'll love it.

    1998 Explorer Sport & 2007 Fleetwood Yuma
     
  12. PineyWoods

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    Hello, I'm a pup-owner wannabe and have the same question... with a twist.

    Our car (Volvo S40) has a towing capacity of 2,000 lbs so I know that knocks out most options--even with a towing package. I've browsed sites for Livin' Lite and Fleetwood Cobalt or Neon, but not sure these are large enough to graduate from tent camping? (Though they are very cute!)

    Here's the twist: Our towing distance will only 2-3 miles from a storage facility to our own property, going about 35 miles an hour. Instead of traveling to go camping, we spend occasional weekends doing light forestry work on our land and need an easier place to crash at the end of a long day.

    Assuming we'd find a way to get the pup out there in the first place, is it reasonable to tow something a little larger (like the Fleetwood Yuma or Sedona)? We are a family of three, plus a friend or two...
     
  13. rgallup1

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    Hi Loree and PineyWoods. Have you looked at the Rockwood 1640 LTD? It's around 1400 lbs.

    Donna and Bob ('70)
    DD's Madison ('98) and Ava ('05)
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle"> 2003 Honda CRV
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp"> 2006 Rockwood 1640 LTD
     
  14. PineyWoods

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    Hey that looks like a great option. I will check out that Rockwood more...

    Also, I loved your photos and the ideas for storage. Definitely looks like the way to go for us-- how long does it all take to set up and take down? That's also a factor for us since we do short trips, sometimes only staying one night.

    Thanks for the suggestion!

    Sherri
     
  15. You-And-I

    You-And-I Ozarks Überland Basecamp

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    <center>Quick Silver is a great light weight camper for a family,the camper has a aluminum frame and body.</center>

    <center><b>"Check It Out"</b></center>
    <center><b><font color=blue>Quick Silver Video Click Here:</font id=blue></b></center>

    Alan & Christine
    48 Days Camping 2007
    Bell Canoe
    Tentrax A.T.Off Road Camper
    Jeep Wrangler/Sahara <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_jeep.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Jeep">
    <b>http://offroadcampingclub.com</b>

    Edited by - You-And-I on July 17 2008 13:37:49
     
  16. Luv2ridebikes

    Luv2ridebikes New Member

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    The 8' Quick Silver box is indeed really light. A dry weight under 900 lbs and frugal loading make a nice option for someone in need of a really light camper.

    rgallup1 - your Rockwood is in the lighter class of traditional pop ups, but the weight your are quoting is the unloaded weight. Any gear plus options is going to put you close to 2,000 pounds in a hurry.

    Rockwood, Fleetwood, Jayco and most others have an 8' version between 1,300 lbs and 1,400 lbs empty. You would be surprised how fast that starts climbing when you add gear and accessories.

    Steve & Deb (boys are grown & gone)
    Aspen & Riley (the 4 legged children)
    05 Fleetwood Sequoia & lot's of bikes! <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_bike.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Bicycle"><img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_bike.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Bicycle">
     
  17. rgallup1

    rgallup1 New Member

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    Hey, thanks for the compliment. Most of my storage solutions came from this website! The camper doesn't take long at all to set up/take down. What works best for us is to have DH set up while I take the kids and then I set up the interior while he has them. I should also mention that we usually take 2 vehicles to keep the weight down on our TV since we have 4 bikes, a fridge, etc...but being so close to the campground this shouldn't be a problem for you. <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Smile">

    Donna and Bob ('70)
    DD's Madison ('98) and Ava ('05)
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle"> 2003 Honda CRV
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp"> 2006 Rockwood 1640 LTD
     
  18. rgallup1

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    Hi Steve and Deb. Somehow I skipped right over your post! Good point, it does add up fast. This is why we transport most of our gear in the 2nd car. BTW, I just checked out the Quick Silver website...really cool.

    Donna and Bob ('70)
    DD's Madison ('98) and Ava ('05)
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle"> 2003 Honda CRV
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp"> 2006 Rockwood 1640 LTD
     

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