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Discussion in 'Featured Products' started by PopUpSteve, Jul 26, 2010.
Thank-you for your kind post Paul :>)
In preparation for some cold weather camping, just bought inside and outside Gizmos. They shipped ridiculously quick and arrived today. I'm so bummed, though, that I hadn't read this topic, so I didn't know to ask for the velcro. I didn't see that anywhere on their website. Now I guess I have an excuse to buy (and learn to use?) a sewing machine.
If you're looking for a reason to buy a sewing machine, you could use this (says the person with 7 sewing machines in the house). Otherwise, ask around to find out who would sew the plush onto the PUGs for you, for a reasonable price. A service that sews patches on uniforms or other sewing service might do it.
I do not recommend self-stick, we tried sections of it, it gave way and I was left to sew new plush next to the old, you can't sew through self-stick, it gums up the needle. We had it put on the second set of PUGs for the Cobalt. (We didn't have it out on the first set, since the old camper didn't need it, the PUG was pinched so well between hard roof edge and bunk roof.)
Just bought a set of PUGS for my hybrid, Bob is great to do business with. I ordered mine on a Wednesday and they were here Saturday. Great to do business with.
We have a Rockwood Roo and while looking at some of the photos online of the PUG's, I see they tuck the top edge under the hardtop roof. We don't have that option, how do the PUG's not slide down?
Some people have actually put Velcro up under the top of the opening the bunk, just like on a PUP. I have pugs on my Roo, but don't have Velcro on them. They stay just fine with just the spring clamps that come with them. I am going on my third year with them now, and they still work great.
I'm researching ways to waterproof a seam on one of my new pugs. The first time I used them, I noticed water dripping out from underneath the pug on top of the bunk end. This was ac runoff on the low end of the pup that I think was running through a seam on the pug where two pieces of the material were joined due to the king size bunk. I've been looking at various solutions and have corresponded with Bob P. to get his input. Has anyone else tried to solve this problem? So far Bob's recommendation of using the same sealer they use for a different product appears to be the way to go, but I wanted to throw this out there to see if anyone else has any ideas. I have been looking at Gorilla clear tape as a possibility but it seems to be a less elegant solution than Bob's idea (https://www.amazon.com/Iosso-Products-Seam-Sealer-Oz/dp/B002AQX63A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472042781&sr=8-1&keywords=iosso+seam+sealer).
Pretty sure I would opt to go with the recommendation of the manufacturer over a less elegant method. With my boat cover I just use camp Dry spray and go over the seams twice. Never had much of an issue.
I use the spring clamps to hold it in place before putting the shepards poles in place. Once they go in the PUGs stay in place without the clamps. This is our 3rd season as well with them...They really do make a difference and also help keep the bunkend vinyl clean.
So my Sunday 'get off the couch' project was to try waterproofing the pugs using some 'tarp tape' I found at Northern Tool and then using some seam sealer I found at REI on all the stitching. Both products indicate they will work on tarps. Here are the products:
I cleaned all the seams and stitching with isoprophyl alcohol then I taped the underside (non-silver side) seams where two pieces of material were joined with the tarp tape. Then went over the tape with a heat gun to warm the tape while pressing the warmed tape with the tape roll. Then I went over all the stitching with the seam sealer. I have the super high wind models so that meant treating the seams on the underside/non-silver side for each of the bungee pockets as well as the stitching on the topside/silver side of the joining seams (2 pugs=2 joining seams). Results are tbd, I will update after a field test. The tarp tape appears to be sticking well, but I didn't try to pull it to see how well it bonded and the seam sealer dried clear so there really isn't any noticeable evidence.
I am also going to add some j-channel gutters to prevent ac runoff from getting to the pug in the first place so all this effort may be for naught. The reason I am so concerned with this ac runoff is my experience with my first pup which was a hand-me-down from my FIL. That Palomino came to me after 10+ years of hard and well traveled service. My father-in-law would head out from Florida for 4-5 months at a time every spring, so that Palomino was in constant service. I could not tell if any maintenance had ever been done on it. The first thing I noticed is the stitching had dry rotted on the corners of the bunk ends. I attributed this to the constant ac runoff that kept the stitching wet. The stitching was practically dust and the corners of the bed platforms were showing the water damage, as well as the mattresses. I remember that my FIL used plastic grocery bags on the corners of his mattresses. Eventually that Palomino developed severe water damage in the front storage box as well as the front interior cabinets and delamination of the floor. It was sad indeed to see. I fixed what I could and used that pup for a several years until a trip to Pensacola one July a few years ago when the ac gave up. That was the final straw, I didn't want to spend 1k on a 15+ year old camper that was also in need of a major refit, so I gave it away to someone that used it as a deer camp. Anyway that long winded story is my lesson learned, water is a campers worst enemy, the same goes for boats, but thats another story altogether, "what's the worst thing you can do to a boat?.....put it in the water"