Replacement fire extinguisher...

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  1. DFire2

    DFire2 Active Member

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    I have my JayCo popup rebuild nearly complete. My 2# FE is the original from like '95. So it's way outta date. I went ahead and installed the recessed holder that it had with it. However after installation I've found that the new 2# FE i just bought is shorter and wider, won't fit. Grrrr...so before I take that one out and attempt to make my own recessed fixture, does anyone know if a company sells a 2# FE in the same dimensions as the original?

    Thanks.

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  3. TDS-MN

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    I ended up using the PWC marine style, which has the push-button activation like the first link provided. That was what my OEM extinguisher looked like from my '93 anyway. I found that available online, but stumbled across one at a local Walmart for $9.96. It fit in my OE recessed bracket very well. I would say that the 'bottle' is maybe a half inch shorter, and slightly less diameter. But the plastic bracket does snap into place well enough to secure the extinguisher. I might be able to get a picture over the weekend if I get a chance to pop the roof open.

    Not sure if this ins the exact part number yet or not, but I believe this is what I ended up using:
    https://www.industrialsafety.com/Ki...MIz4Hs_9Tw1QIVhIWzCh1Ebg2lEAQYBSABEgK2yfD_BwE
     
  4. DFire2

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    Thanks, I'll head over to wally world later and check out what they have.
     
  5. tfischer

    tfischer Well-Known Member

    $30 online? What a rip off. I didn't pay that much for a 2-pack of much larger ones we keep in the kitchen cabinet and garage.
     
  6. DFire2

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    Yeah these size of FE seem to be a specialty. The only other use for these I've found seem to be ski-doo.

    Anyways, I called my local RV place and they HAD ONE! It was about $27 out the door. Cheaper than Amazon. Picture provided below. Only difference is the new one is a 24oz whereas the old one was a 32oz (2#). The diameters match exactly, the new one though being about 1/2 shorter in height.

    New brand is Fyr Fyter.

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  7. TDS-MN

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    Heh, looks like the same bottle as the one I got, except mine is white. We DEFINITELY had the same original one.

    Too bad it doesn't have the gauge like you wanted, but I think that due to size, these are pretty bare-bones. First replacement I thought I had that was going to work, had the larger lever activator, but I did not like how it stuck out of the recess into the walkway, saw bad things happening with that one, so it is now mounted by my garage workbench.
     
  8. megcabra

    megcabra Well-Known Member

    After reading your thread the other week I thought I’d better check our extinguisher on our 1998 Coleman Redwood and indeed the mfg stamp showed 1997. So I figured it was time to change it out as I’m sure the powder was packed solid from all the miles/km we drove over the years. The cost of an exact replacement Kidde in red was $20 more than the $10 Walmart Kidde white version and they gave me free shipping to my store. In the end I got lucky since it is the exact same size as the original extinguisher and I was able to use the same mount. Although ideally I wish it had a gauge on it ,but it fits.


    Walmart $10 Kidde 5BC: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Walter-Kidde-5BC-PWC-Fire-Extinguisher/16224463



    Thanks for the reminder!

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  9. pasobuff

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    PLEASE NOTE - those fire extinguishers you have posted are for class B and C fires ONLY! Gasoline and electrical - they are NOT classified for normal combustibles (wood, paper etc).....that would be an ABC extinguisher. I'd check and see what rating the original extinguisher has, and if it is an ABC replace it with the same type.
     
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  10. JPBar

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    My original is a BC rated just checked it.
     
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  11. megcabra

    megcabra Well-Known Member

    Mine too was a B-C rated extinguisher that came with our Coleman. I guess an A-B-C probably would be better.

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  12. tzmartin

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    I wonder why original equipment only included "BC" extinguishers.
     
  13. JPBar

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    Cost for the manufacture
    BC-$14
    ABC-$23
     
  14. TDS-MN

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    Yup, my OE unit was a B/C only as well. It is curious, as A/B/C would seem to make more sense based on the use. Maybe the thought was that the elec converter was the only real ignition source in the popup originally?
     
  15. megcabra

    megcabra Well-Known Member

    So here is some more info I discovered on why we got 5BC extinguishers in our Pop-Ups.

    All our Pop-Ups are built to standards adopted by the Recreational Vehicle Industry (RIVA) and or in Canada on older models prior to 2011 certified by organizations like CSA or QAI to meet the CSA Z240 Fold-Down Trailer standard. The manufacturers all agreed to follow the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) standards for RVs. NFPA 1192 standard code for RVs and requires that the extinguisher be mounted within 24”/61cm of the primary means of escape and that the if the RV Trailer has a fuel burning system (cooking and or heating) and or a 120/240 volt electrical system a portable extinguisher with a minimum rating of 5BC as defined by NFPA 10 or Canada-ULC-S508.

    In the end I still think an ABC type would be more practical for our units with all the wood in the roof, walls and floor.

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  16. tfischer

    tfischer Well-Known Member

    ...or the stove, or the furnace, or the fridge in gas mode, or an ember from the campfire...

    Yeah if/when we replace ours it will be ABC. You could picture any ignition source setting the wood on fire and then a BC isn't going to be as useful.
     
  17. megcabra

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  18. Fless

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    Might want to visit this page and read up on the Pros and Cons of different types.
     
  19. megcabra

    megcabra Well-Known Member

    So I received my replacement Kidde extinguisher from the recall the other day and installed it over the weekend. Although it is the same capacity it is shorter and fatter but it does have a gauge. I decided to cut some of my original housing plastic and install their mount with a metal brace on the rear. Not sure if Kidde will ever make the old style again or not but I'm good for now.

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