Screens in Canvas

Discussion in 'Canvas / Awnings / Add a Rooms / Tarps / Tents' started by trixiegirl, May 6, 2008.

  1. trixiegirl

    trixiegirl New Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    The canvas is in very good condition, however the screens on the end of the beds (not the canvas itself) need help. What can be done to replace those? Do you have to replace the canvas too? Or can you replace just the screens and is there an easy way to do it?
  2. Tekboy46

    Tekboy46 New Member

    Aug 15, 2007
    Central Oklahoma
    I haven't read about anyone sewing in new screens, but it could be done. You'd have to decide how much work you want to put into the project. Maybe someone who's tackled a screen replacement will post. Screen patches look like patches no matter how careful you are patching. Trimming out the old bad screen and sewing new screen in would be anything but easy, but most of the stuff we do to these campers is like that lol. I wouldn't replace the canvas for that kind of money if all that was wrong was the screens. Chime in if you tackle replacing the screens.

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    Edited by - Tekboy46 on May 06 2008 16:42:51
  3. stcy69

    stcy69 New Member

    May 7, 2008
    I'd also like to know about patching a screen. We had mice this winter and two small holes in one of the screen,but not in the bunk area,the main front window.

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  4. srds

    srds Freeport,Texas

    Jun 17, 2007
    Texas Gulf Coast
    We were talking about how to do that on 97 coleman that a friend has,his wife plans on trying to see how bad it would be to open up seams.Thats alot of sewing.I'll let you know when she tries.

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  5. ehcarmen

    ehcarmen New Member

    Apr 14, 2008
    Durham, NC
    I recently purchased a PU that had really shabby screens, and then DS continued to make them even worse after I set it up for the first time.

    What I did was to go to Wally World, and get two rolls of the 36" fiberglas screen (about $5-$6 per roll) and a curved upholstery needle (the big one).

    I cut out all the bad screening to within 1" or so of the canvas. I then roughly measured the dimensions of the entire window, leaving a little to spare in either direction. This is where it gets tricky. I then safety pinned the new screen to the inside of the border of the old screen. The only hint here is to make sure you keep the entire unit as tight as you can (BTW, make sure the PU is popped). I then threaded the upholsters needle with fishing line (light test), and picked a point to begin. I then did a double overlap stitch (thats what I call it), so basically, every section is double stitched. Also, I kept it as close to the canvas edge as possible.

    Then, once the new screen was in, I sent back and trimmed the old screen again to a length of about 1/4" - 1/2", leaving a little extra, just in case.

    Then, I went into the inside of the PU and trimmed off the excess there as well.

    This certainly isn't a permanent installation/fix, but I am hoping to replace the canvas within a year or so, and it will do for now.

    Hope this helps. It took a little patience, good lighting and about two hours for the entire job. I would post pics, but you cant really see it....

    Let me know if you hve any questions. Thanks.

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  6. trixiegirl

    trixiegirl New Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    That's actually what I was thinking of doing to replace the screens. Can you tell when you look at it that is what you did?
  7. ehcarmen

    ehcarmen New Member

    Apr 14, 2008
    Durham, NC
    Well, I can tell, but I'm not sure it would be painfully obvious to everyone else. It all depends on how close to the canvas you get the stitching. If you go right next to it, it is harder to see, further away, and it is more obvious. Also, take the time to do the stitching as tight and close as possible. There are a couple of questionable areas on mine where I got careless, and it is more obvious.

    Like I said, not a permanent solution, but a great temporary fix. we are not AVID campers, yet anyway, and for us, it is just fine. Bugs stay out (which is the idea) and it looks pretty good.

    Let me know if you have any other questions and how it turns out!!

    2001 Dodge Caravan
    1985 Palomino CSX Hardsider
  8. FtWildernessBound

    FtWildernessBound New Member

    May 23, 2008
    Ehcarmen, I was thinking about doing this exact same thing, but I'm having trouble finding the right kind of screen material? When you said you bought it on a roll - is it more like a type of screen you'd see on a real window? I was thinking I'd need more of a fabric mesh-type of screen. I can't seem to find that locally, but I imagine its online somewhere. What section at Walmart did you find screening, and how much was on a roll? Thanks!
  9. punkindad

    punkindad New Member

    May 28, 2008
    In addition to what ehcarmen did you can use seam sealer and coat the stitches to keep them from coming loose. I have used this to seal small( 1" or less) tears in my canvas.


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  10. Dusty82

    Dusty82 New Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Northern Nevada
    About the only thing I would add to this thread (no pun intended) is not to use monofilament fishing line. Monofilament fishing line is usually made of nylon, and while it is strong enough, nylon doesn't handle UV rays from the sun very well, and will deteriorate over time. This may or not be a problem down the road, depending on how often you use your PUP.

    As a relatively new automotive upholsterer (2 years,) might I suggest #69 polyester upholstery thread (#69 is the thread thickness.) Polyester upholstery thread is what is used to sew the PUP canvas together, and is also used in boat, motorcycle, and automotive upholstery, because it better handles the UV exposure, and in most cases is stronger than the material being sewn. Contact a sewing machine shop in your area that sells or repairs industrial sewing machines. If they don't sell the thread, they can point you in the direction of someone who does. You might also try a local upholstery shop - they may have a small spool they'll sell (or even give) you.

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    Edited by - Dusty82 on June 26 2008 06:18:39

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