vintage heater!

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  1. Katskamper

    Katskamper Active Member

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    this 1940s natural gas heater was purchased to put on my patio, so i could keep my smaller Dearborne for camping.
    had to get 2 brass fittings to get it to fit the propane tank hose.
    but now i have HEAT outside!
    another old thing saved from the salvage yard.
     

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  2. nineoaks2004

    nineoaks2004 Every meal is a picnic and every Day is a holiday

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    Looks good, it will probably (in fact already has) outlast and out heat any of the modern cheaply made heaters.
     
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    jmkay1 2004 Fleetwood/Coleman Utah

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    There was a yard sale I went to. They were selling a 1930s toaster at least that was what the contraption looked like and a 1950's electric heater. According to the owners both still worked. Although they looked cool to look at I didn't trust buying it myself I'm not very electrical savy.
     
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    The natural gas jets burn propane OK?
     
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  5. Katskamper

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    yes. old natural gas heaters work on propane.

    i have converted 3 old gas heaters for camping.
    2 of the white “bathroom” freestanding heaters & a wall mount dearborne. none of them have ceramic kiln bricks.

    i have used the dearborne heater (for 15+ years) in my big tent when fall camping, keeps me toasty. the white heaters get hot on all sides, so they need heat deflectors.

    converting requires brass /gas pipe fittings to connect heaters to bbq hose & white propane tank.

    the stove that came with camper flamed out, so i salvaged the hose & brass stem to add to smallest white heater, so it will quick connect to outside gas line on pup. = patio heater. could use inside in freezing temps.
    even a teeny blue dot gas flame produces good heat.


    i think the regulators on bbq grill hose reduces pressure too much.
    looking into other hoses.
     
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    E4E4AD3F-8381-42B7-A2B7-429AC4963DD2.jpeg Tag on back says ok to use propane.
    Based on tag # , Now I think this is a 1940s heater. Still older than me!
     

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  7. rabird

    rabird Howdy!

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    As the placard shows, nat gas is usually 7" of water column (that's pressure) and propane is 11" w.c. like your back yard propane grill. The orifices of different size take this into account and that propane has more energy.
     
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    i took it apart to clean & did not want to disconnect main line in.
    will look to see if any instructions exist online.
    since it lights, heats up, its good for now.

    i can sit outside & play ball w my dog, & not freeze.
     
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    photos of vintage bathroom heater, aquired at architecture salvage shop.
    hose & fittings taken from stove that flamed out
    perfect fit.

    this lil guy can put out some heat!
     
  10. tenttrailer

    tenttrailer Art & Joyce - Columbus, O

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    It all depends how it was set up. Was it last setup for NG or propane. The Propane orifices will have smaller holes than the NG ones. But that unit when new had a set of orifices installed in it most likely NG and there was a cloth bad with another set of orifices and maybe a part for the gas control valve.
     
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    it was using natural gas when i bought it.
    im not finding any instructions for this model, so dont know about lp gas orifice. dont want to disconnect line that is working until i have instructions.

    anyone?
     
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    You can use lp as long as you have a good control valve to regulate the flame sizes. I have two kitchen ranges running on lp, each with 1 burner with a ng orifice. Makes a good "super burner" as long as you don't mind a trace of soot on the pot and don't try to run it too high.
     
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    it was always connected to natural gas. it was still hooked up when they sold it to me!
    the crinkle gas line is newish.

    if im understanding what you’ve posted, there is another place to connect the gas line inside the heater.
    ?
    do i need a connector piece, like i had to use to connect the 2 hoses?

    tag says:
    natutal gas is brass, LP is black.

    they were designed for rural homes, without natural gas.

    now to FIND that orifice.
     
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    omg kill me with numbers. i dont know how to process this info!

    even with tank full open & flame control full open, its not putting out the heat i hoped for, but i understand where wrong connection opening makes difference.
     
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    need to check the brass connection on the white heaters to make sure they are for LP.
     
  17. rabird

    rabird Howdy!

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    propane cylinder should be all the way open in use.

    I assume your orifice is just inside the heater connected to the valve, just beyond the air adjustment disk up against the metal cover.
    The placard suggests to use the black orifice for propane and the brass colored one for nat gas.

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    from http://www.davegardner.org/GasInfo.html about 1/2 down!
     
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    The orifice is usually in the connection between the burner tube and the gas line, downstream from the valve. Immediately after that will be the air vent, a hole in the burner tube with a rotating cover to adjust the airflow.

    I would do away with the "crinkle gas line" and connect the line from the tank regulator directly to gas valve.

    Assuming your heat expectations are reasonable the orifice may be clogged and not allowing sufficient gas flow.
     
  19. Katskamper

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    hooked up to the house natural gas, it was cranking hot.

    even with tank wide open, and lever full open, not much heat.
    not big flames either.

    but it is only 34 degrees right now.

    im keeping the metal line to put more distance between stove and tank. dont wan5 to risk melting rubber hose
     
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    rabird Howdy!

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    What type of regulation/connector @ propane container?
     

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