14 occupied sites in loop, 10 are brand new campers.

tfischer

A bad day camping beats a good day at the office
Usually where we camp no sites are electric. So things stay pretty dark as people try to save their battery.

Doesn't always help. I posted a few weeks ago about a campground we stayed at, there was no electric at the entire campground (even the water well was solar). Some people just ran a generator constantly during non-quiet hours so they could light up their sites like a parking lot, and then sit inside.
 
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campfire Joe

Active Member
Jan 27, 2015
396
peru new york
Doesn't always help. I posted a few weeks ago about a campground we stayed at, there was no electric at the entire campground (even the water pump was solar). Some people just ran a generator constantly during non-quiet hours so they could light up their sites like a parking lot, and then sit inside.
Wow some pretty inconsiderate campers where you camp. I have had lots of partiers at times around us, but everyone shuts their jennys off at the specified times.
 

Old_Geezer

Super Active Member
Sep 29, 2009
2,760
Southwest PA
That's when you hold a "New Camper Owner" seminar.

How nice that would be. Probably would go in one ear and out the other.

Some longtime hosts, who are about the nicest folks you'll ever meet, told me they are seriously considering not returning next uear due to the number of total jerks they have had to deal with during the 2020 season. They have never seen anything like it in 18 years of hosting at state parks. The top two complaints are weak cell coverage / no wifi and no OTA TV signal. Not sure how a campground host solves those issues lol,but its important enough for some of these clowns to go beating on the hosts door at 10 PM at night.

They also mentioned the more than a few folks who do not understand leash rules or what a poop bag is used for, and the amounts of trash left behind they have to clean up. I believe they have a good baseline to compare the difference from prior years.
 

RockyRoo

Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD
Jun 8, 2012
6,626
And all 10 are obsessed with leaving every exterior light on from dusk to dawn. This sucks. So much for inebriated star gazing. Covidiots I presume. This place looks like the aliens have landed.

how far will my site be from yours Saturday night? I need to make sure I install enough lights today to be easily seen from your site.

sadly this doesn’t surprise me as the whole lighting thing is being promoted by both manufacturers and dealers. “Look how many more lights we have compared to them”
 

WrkrBee

Super Active Member
May 23, 2018
6,544
South Carolina
Two years ago, there was a new big travel trailer that had light show projectors aimed on both sides of the trailer. The light show ran all night long. Of course it lit up the trees around them, so everyone could enjoy. New money wants to be seen and heard.
 

shelmily

Super Active Member
Jun 7, 2012
3,609
Northeast Pennsylvania
Yeah, I really don't understand the whole extra bright lights thing either. On our first trip this year with the new camper, My wife and I both were about blinded by the LED awning light strip that came with it. That week I installed a dimmer on it. I rarely take it off the lowest setting now, which is like 30% of the total brightness. I never leave the lights on if we are not under the awning either. If I wanted all that light, I would not go out into the woods.
 
Jul 27, 2017
65
Oxford, Alabama
Anyone who has been involved in emergency services has seen this playing out for years. What started out as a single red flashing light on top of the fire truck became two flashing lights on the police car. Then you upgraded to the rotating beacon and if one was good, two were better. Let's not forget light bars and wig-wag headlamps. Then there was the smaller lights - fireballs or Kojak lights, that ambulances started putting on the front of the cab. If the town next door had a squad with 12 lights, our next ladder truck would need at least 16! The only thing that slowed down the light accumulation was the alternator and how much power it could supply to these power hungry incandescent and halogen bulbs. Now with the small, high intensity LEDs the sky is the limit. Anyplace you can stick an LED bulb on an emergency vehicle it will be there flashing. And not just flashing but flashing in multiple patterns. There is just something about lights that fascinates the human eye! :police::police::):):):):)
 

Sneezer

Super Active Member
Aug 8, 2015
3,081
DFW, TX
Alas it is not just the new folks these days. I have seen campers with their exterior lights on for years. It used to be that everyone had an amber porch light, and it wasn't super bright and you could live with it. Over the last 5-10 years though LEDs have taken off. Now every trailer has accent lights under the awning, under the body, at the steps, and often on the nose/tail and opposite side, and they are not low intensity either. With a TT most people don't even notice how bright their lights are, since they retire inside and the brightness doesn't bleed through the windows near as much as a pup experiences.

Same thing with lanterns - the basic Coleman gas lantern did a fine job, but wasn't super bright. Now there are Northstar lanterns that are roughly twice as bright (I know, I have a couple myself), but the LED lanterns have really taken off. Now you can use a lantern with 2-3 times the brightness of a Northstar, let it run all night and recharge during the day. I have even seen tent campers set up construction worklights to light up their campsite at a state park - talk about bright!
 

Sjm9911

Super Active Member
May 31, 2018
12,566
Nj
Alas it is not just the new folks these days. I have seen campers with their exterior lights on for years. It used to be that everyone had an amber porch light, and it wasn't super bright and you could live with it. Over the last 5-10 years though LEDs have taken off. Now every trailer has accent lights under the awning, under the body, at the steps, and often on the nose/tail and opposite side, and they are not low intensity either. With a TT most people don't even notice how bright their lights are, since they retire inside and the brightness doesn't bleed through the windows near as much as a pup experiences.

Same thing with lanterns - the basic Coleman gas lantern did a fine job, but wasn't super bright. Now there are Northstar lanterns that are roughly twice as bright (I know, I have a couple myself), but the LED lanterns have really taken off. Now you can use a lantern with 2-3 times the brightness of a Northstar, let it run all night and recharge during the day. I have even seen tent campers set up construction worklights to light up their campsite at a state park - talk about bright!
I usally have a talk with the nebibours that leaves the light on all night. Unfortunately i have had to do it multiple times now. Its not too bothersome in the new TT but in the pup it was miserable!
 

kitphantom

Super Active Member
Platinum Supporting Member
Dec 26, 2009
14,036
Albuquerque, NM
For our Coleman lanterns, we have the reflector, so most of the light stays inside in our own site. (Assuming the campground layout cooperates.) we’re seldom out long enough after dark to use them anymore, though.
I have a couple of plastic bottles that I use with solar LED strings on some places. One gets tucked under the edge of the trailer, next to the steps, for safety after dark. The other is used if I need to mark a hazard or better mark the campsite if I’ll be returning after dark. I painted one jar because the light string was too bright when it was clear.
We have been in some places where lights under campers are rodent deterrents. (After having a squirrel eat ignition wires in our truck at home, I understand the desire to prevent damage,) Usually the people doing that have the light strings under the camper, not lighting up the site. We have seen enough of bright sites though, in many places, power available or not.
 

Maggi Bailey

Member
Sep 13, 2020
12
Most places we have camped have pretty great tree coverage between sites which is amazing, and until very recently we were in tent only loops which are the best for darkness.
 




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