So, here is my 1994 Coleman Destiny Rio Grande. The canvas was worse than was thought, but the inside was better than we thought. Does that make sense? I know this is backwards from what most people want, but I with to take out my galley. I don't want the water hookups or the heater. I have no intention of cooking inside. I have tent camped for several years with 6/7 kids and a husband with a physical disability that leaves me setting up camp myself... We do get weather down to 40*, but we have camped (in a tent) in it before with 6 month old infants. You just have to be prepared. We have camped with all weekend rain in a tent... That is why we have a 10x10 pop up canopy to add in a dry cooking space as well as play area. I actually have a full set up for an outdoor camp kitchen. So I have no desire to have the heater or galley. I can actually see my littles (youngest is now 2 & Eldest is 9) getting into trouble with it.