1st time PUP buyer....new vs. used?

Discussion in 'First Time & New Camper Owners' started by KGawley59, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. KGawley59

    KGawley59 New Member

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    This site is soooo informative! Thanks to all who submit. I have yet to purchase my first PUP. What are the pros/cons of buying new vs. used? Thanks!
     
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    Kathleenlh New Member

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    I can't speak from experience of buying new. I can't really speak of much experience since this is our first season with any PUP. I can tell you I like having the ability to change (MODS) the PUP, without worry of the $ we paid. I personally feel it is like buying a car. We prefer used so all the kinks and depreciation is done with. I think you just have to look at the pros and cons for your individual situation and likes and dislikes. Good luck. We love our PUP and we love this site.



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    We are probably on the flip side of the above poster.... We purchased new in June. For me it was the waranty and for the DW it was the idea that it was spotless & nobody had slept in it.

    Since you are asking for pros and cons I think the downside was a bigger price tag (read gamble) for something we hadn't done before. My DW had only camped when she was little. Also we didn't really factor in all the extras & accessories into the budget. So far it has payed off since we have a great time when we are out.

    The biggest thing is to get educated on what you want and what is out there so you don't end up with something you don't enjoy.

    Change is the ONLY constant.
     
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    I got mine for free so far I'm in for $75 and I'm going to do the bearings and try for tires. It would have been $100 to have the hook up done but the folks on this site got me threw all that and now if I can get my vacation and the rain to keep apart we can hit the road with it. With my BBQ I get bugs in the tubes I flush them out with a pipe cleaner it works real good on bugs.

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  5. Bummer72

    Bummer72 Lancaster, PA

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    IMHO, analyze the reasons you want a pop-up, and then buy somehting that meets your needs/wants. Used was more than enough for me.

    The reason I got a pup is b/c I wanted to go camping, but was tired of sleeping on skinny closed cell foam pads, or air mattresses that went flat by morning. I wanted someplace I could sit inside if the weather got rainy, but not essentially be sitting on the ground. I know I'll want my camping season to extend year-round, in warmth and comfort, so I already bought a Mr. Heater Buddy. IMHO i concluded an older, used camper, with only the basic amenities, was more than enough. It was a luxury upgrade from a tent, in fact.

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  6. momoney

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    Look look and look some more, be very aware of the size you need. There is fleetwood up on top and then many models that are priced a little lower .I have been looking for a few months looked at all the main models , went to a lot of dealers lots and was going to buy a used top end model and was afraid of the weight.Last minute my wife said a new mid size would do just fine.Its weight 1800 dry and my SUV pulls it just fine.If its a pain to tow it won't be much fun taking it out.I kind of wanted a slide out built in but that was a few hundred more pounds.I passed on it.The trailer and vehicle needs to be a good match along with what's inside and the driver.The last dealer that I talked to told me to buy what I needed and not what I wanted.And I did and it was 1200 lbs lighter.

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  7. John L

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    For us, we didn't want to go too deep in debt for something that we would use basically for a few weeks a year. When you actually add up all the time you spend in your PUP it's not a lot particularly in a seasonal state like Vermont. We found ours at a dealer and paid $4000. $2000 down and a year later and we owned it. It was a 2 year old Colemen Cottonwood and looked brand new and even smelled new. The floor didn't have a scratch, the stove didn't look like anyone had ever used it. Vinyl and canvas was clean and perfect. Cabinets didn't have a mark. Ceiling was clean without a stain or spot and the same with curtains and mattresses. I have since installed a water pump,furnace, extra propane tank and we are very happy with it and debt free. After finding this one, I can't say I'm in favor of paying a dealer a high markup for a new one and going in debt for $10K to $17K.

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  8. Yellowkayak

    Yellowkayak Popups.....when sleeping on the ground gets to you

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    I'm with JohL. Look at how much time you will spend in it. If your going to use it just a few times a year, then go used. My wife and I plan of traveling all over North America next year after she graduates from college, so it will be our home on the road, so it was worth it to us to buy new (07 Fleetwood Niagra with all the bells and whistles). We did not want things to constantly break down and have to worry about repairs at a high cost, so the warranty is great to have when traveling. We also opted for additional insurance coverage on our POPUP for hotels and towing thru our insurance company for that much more convience. We will probably be on the road 200 days out of the year if not more, so new was the way to go.

    So think realistically how much you are going to use it, then go from there to see if its cost affective.



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    Hi KGawley,

    This is our first year with a Pup, before that we tent camped. We looked at a bunch of new pups - the ones that had everything we wanted, didn't have a layout we liked and were around 17 grand. We lucked up and found a rarely used Coleman Santa Fe that had everything we wanted, plus lots of extras - best layout I'd seen, really roomy with lots of seating space and tons of storage - even has an attached cargo storage area up front.

    We didn't want anything that needed repairs - so if we hadn't found one in such great shape, we definitely would have gone with a new one. Like everyone said - decide what you want/need, then go out looking. Happy Camping...
     
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    I went with almost new. Like new with warranty remaining, and saved almost $4,000



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  11. mostlyok

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    We are still using our used PU. We are still buying lottery tickets to get our new PU. There are two advantages to a used PU, and one disadvantage. The advantages are: 1)you can save some initial bucks; and 2) you can do mods without feeling guilty. The disadvantage: you don't always know how good the used PU is, and you may get something that requires lots of repairs. So if you look for a used one, be very vigilant, and check everything out before signing the papers. We're still puttying the roof leak!


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  12. Fly

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    My two popups were model left-overs. The '96 was purchased in '97 and the '99 in '00 ~ in the case of the '99, it was identical to the '00 models but $1500.00 less, for openers. And the warranty began the date of purchase, not by the model year.

    But I've seen some terrific used bargins. All is a matter of seek & find ... and being at the right place at the right time!

    Fly

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  13. Luv2ridebikes

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    We've purchased 4 pop ups over 20 plus years. 3 were new (but end of year closeouts). One was used. We have been very happy with the value and performance of all of them.

    If you buy new, check out the dealer as much as the camper. Are they committed to the pop up line or is it just an entry product they barely support?

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    since I And the DW have camped before and our two kids have not (and the DD is 11, the DS is 5) we opted on used then my buddy just gave me his old one. the DW and I have issues regarding the foam beds at first but we replaced them, and as Kathleen stated I don't think about the price I paid when I added a fridge, heater, and stove.

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  15. KGawley59

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    Thanks to all who replied. It is a tough decision, however, being a newbie, I am leaning towards a closeout '07. I've tent camped numerous times as an adult with my DD's (now almost grown), now I have a DS who really enjoys it. My DH goes along, but I am the enthusiast. Since injuring my back in '06, I am looking forward to the comfort a PUP offers. Thanks!
     
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    If you are having to finance... look at payments on both new and used.... many times you can get a new one for the same price if not cheaper then a used one.. only because you can get a better interest rate and can be financed over a longer period..

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    I just bought a 1996 Jayco Series 10. Mint condition. First Pop Up since I camped with parents 30 years ago. We bought used to get back into the camping world for the kids and will upgrade in a few years after we are really sure its how we want to spend our summers. I would reccommend used since the used units seem to hold their value well and you can always upgrade later.
    Although, thebenefit to new is getting all the toys, bells and whistles you want right from the start.
     
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    yeah you are correct on that Mike....the only reason to buy new is to get exactly what you want after you have been camping awhile and learned the ins and outs of this game. Buying used is the better deal to get started to see if you are going to really enjoy the camping lifestle....you can sell it in a few years for almost the same or even more in some cases depending on how well you have kept it and initial pricing.
    Good luck to all future buyers.

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    Thank you for all your responses. After much thought, I decided to look more closely at the used pups. The new ones have lots of bells and whistles, but, I don't think it's "me." And, there's the cost factor. Sooooo.....I've looked at two used Colemans, one a Sun Valley, and the other, a Redwood. There's something to be said about "they don't make 'em like they used to." However, I hope the third one I view will be "the one." It's also a used Coleman. I am sooooo excited, but will contain myself. Happy Camping, Kathy
     
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    I wish you the best of luck!

    Our first was a 76 Cox Conestoga. We used it once.. due to lack of time. Then, earlier this year, I decided to check on a newer model. By that I mean, something a little less closer to my age!
    I checked dealers etc. Found a 1994 Starcraft on Ebay for a decent price. It was actually through an RV dealer who knocked a good $1000.00 of of it when we went to see it. We got it for right about Nada price for its age. It was in great condition. One small tear along the seam of the canvas at the bottom, one small hole in a screen that you can't even notice. The dealer thought it just had a screen room. Well, when we got home and opened it up, low and behold, it was an Add a Room in perfect condition! That alone was worth it for me!
    Its all a matter of choice and there really is no right or wrong. Go with your gut either way. If you feel its what you want at the price you want, then... go for it!

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