Wow lonestar! Thanks for the insider information! Exactly what we needed. With that info in mind on the playgrounds, we can save the $15 and go to a w/elec site no prob. I'll get dibs on 117. So 117 and 118 are taken. Indy, are you 116 still? At Canyon Lake, I dont remember your dogs being a nuisance at all, or were they not there? lol Richard and Merlin?