a barking dog at 6am!!!!!!!!

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  1. dietel169

    dietel169 New Member

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    ok so we are camping at a new RV park to us.. its been around awhile. its near long beach WA. and we are there for 7 nights. on day 3 across the lane some people pull in with a large group and seem friendly enough. so ok. but at 6am they put their dog out and tie him to the bumper of their large rv. and the dog starts barking. ruff ruff ruff. ..20 seconds go by and ruff ruff ruff. this goes on for about 30 minutes and my husband so out knocks on their door and no ones home!!!!!!! so the dog barks all day long till they come back. ...and guess what they never untie the dog. thye just start yelling at it. shut up ..bark bark bark ....shut up...bark bark bark ...shut up. all that poor dog wanted was some attention. so what do you do whan thiss happens. we told the manager first. and that didn't seem to help.they pit the dog in the rv. but about 30 minutes after the manager let they tied it back up outside. so after my husband asked them the next morning to put the dog in the rv..(at630am again) they did for about 1 hour then the same thing tied him up and left to go fishing again........ they did leave the next morning but what can you do about negectful pet owners.....
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    Wow! Why don't people that don't want to care for their dogs just leave them home? Most of the campgrounds I have been in have rules that state you may not leave animals tied up and unattended in the campground. Maybe trying to find a park ranger when the campground manager didn't seem to resolve the problem. Hopefully this won't happen to you again.

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    Im my honest opinion dogs have no place at a campground. For the reasons you guys mentioned as well as safety for other campers. The dogs I have seen in campgrounds are always tied up all day and looked pissed. My kids are afraid to walk by their sites(they are always in between us and the bathroom) for fear of the animal. If you dont care enough to care of the dog, dont bring it. It would be better taken care of in a kennel. That way everyone is happy.
     
  4. mercman

    mercman Go Ahead, Be That Happy Camper!

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    I'll have to disagree with paulwojo's comment on dogs having no place at a CG. Most dog owners are a respectful bunch but there are always one bad apple around. Most dog owners consider the dogs to be more than a pet and part of the family. I even considered my dogs when looking at floorplans of Pups(camper that is<img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>). I spent a week at a Cg in maine and the only dog that was a problem was a dog that wasn't even staying there but must of lived somewhere near by.
    When we go with our collies they are content on sleeping on the beds or sitting outside with us. We take them with us if we are going somewhere and would never consider leaving them alone. They love marshmallows too. Our dogs are always friendly and more adults than kids come up to us to ask about them and pet them.
    A camper that ties his dog to a bumper and leaves for the day is the same person who at home leaves it tied to a tree all day and lets it bark constantly. IMO those people shouldn't own dogs.
    The people weren't just negletful owners but inconsiderate to others, just imagine what there next door neighbors at home have to put up with. I know I have some myself.

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    Don't get me wrong, I love dogs and there was a time when most dog owners were responsible but I disagree with Chris. Most dog owners I have run across these days consider themselves only. I can't tell you how many idiots have to bring their dog to our local 4th of July parade. Give me a break, they can stay at home for an hour. But no, other people have to put up with walking around their leashes, have their dogs sniff you up and down and they start fights with other dogs etc. Most of the folks in CG's are just as bad. I love the idiots who let their dog run after dark and then at 10 PM start their catawalling, "Here Pepe! Come here Pepe, Come on boy!!!." I don't know whether to shoot the dog or the owner or both.

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    Our last camping trip, we encountered some RVers in the site next to us who stayed up till the we hours of the morning yelling around the fire and then let their dogs (3) out loose at 7am, while they slept. Needless to say, we couldn't sleep because they would bark at everyone who walked by. The dogs even came into our site and woofed and left "presents" for when we got up.

    Aside from neglecting pets at the campground...one BIG pet peeve I have is those people who must take their dogs shopping, 'cause they can't leave them home alone, yet leave them in a hot, hot vehicle for hours.

    John L - I vote for the owner...the dog only does what it is allowed to do.

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    My dog is my child and I treat him as if he were. He is well mannored and stays with us always. We plan our camping trip around what we can do with our dog. To say that dogs should not be allowed because of the few is is a mistake. You see these owners are just plain dis-respectful and even without their dog they would still find a way to piss you off. I can't stand dog owners who have a dog just to tie it up. Well, I could go on and on about this but bottom line is the camground owners or rangers should remove offenders from th CG.

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    Hi Ditel ............ Oldtimer here.

    Yes. I agree with you and sympathize in your frustration. I love good dogs as I also love good people. But there are Bad ones of both. Owning dogs is a big responsibility. Not to be taken litely. In campgrounds, keeping dogs could be a problem if they are not disiplined and well behaved. Mainly because of the close proximity to so many other people (and possibly their pets too).

    I think many State Parks have strict rules for pets (dogs) for a good reason. People who follow the rules (with their pets) usually cause no problems. Some parks have a Zero tolerance policy in regards to pets. The pet owners can get evicted (even in the middle of the night) for failing to follow the rules and causing problems. What one must do however, is to forcefully complain to the management(even threaten to file an official written complaint with local law enforcement). Probably attempting to talk to the offender yourself might be a bad idea. Most of those people would take quick offense to you, and possibly retaliate. Maybe even purposely causing greater disturbance to you for spite. Just quiietly make your problem the managements problem.

    About all campground host will do is to 'talk' to the offender. When the coast is clear and offender starts up again, call campground host and tell them you are going to file a complaint with the local Sheriff. I'd bet host will then lay down the law on offender. Be ready with video camera to record any retaliation. Demand campground rules be enforced.



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    I'm a dog lover, always have been, and if i was allowed to have a dog where i live now i would, rental home right now and no pets allowed.

    But bad pet owners are everywhere so what can you do other than complain to those in charge i guess. Just the other night i had to call the Sheriff at 1:30am because my neighbors dog was barking for an hour and a half with hardly time inbetween to take a breath of air, what set him off i don't know, but it was some of the worst barking from him that i have heard yet.

    Though right next door to them is another dog who was calmly laying by his house and seemed to be just as annoyed as me! He didn't bark back but instead would look that way and kinda growl a bit, as if to say "shutup for gods sake!"

    I know a lot of dog owners and i was one myself, and i understand the bond between a pet and a good owner, those are the dogs that you wouldn't mind having at camp, happy, affectionate, and even a good guard dog in the middle of the night.

    The ones with disrespectful owners just slowly take on bad habits, its not the dogs fault, its the owner!

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    Very good thoughts Oldtimer. I am of the persuasion that most dogs act the way they do, because the owners have "issues", not the dog. I would have been very tempted to "adopt" the dog or take it off the leash and find the local pound. The dog would be better off!! I would not have put up with that for more than a day.

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    We Do Not Have Or Take Dogs With Us Camping ... But ... We Camp With Friends With Dogs, And We Do Not Mind It At All ... Because They Are Pet Owners That Care About Their Fellow Campers And Their Pets ... I Must Say, Like Alot Of Others On Here, We Have Run Into The Pet Owner That Only Thinks About Themselves And That Is Sad, Because It Ruins It For The Responsible Pet Owner ... You See All Kinds At A Campground "Just Shake Your Head & Wonder Why"



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    I'm sorry to see that the good pet owners get a bad rap bacause of the neglectful ones. Its like that saying about "a few bad apples spoil the bunch."

    I like the state parks policy that oldtimer speaks of, of zero-tolerance in regard to pets. In PA parks, I believe they have certain sites set aside, sometimes entire loops of the campground, for pet-owners. Its a start, but the answer lies in being responsible and respectful...unfortunately, we haven't been able to create a law that says you HAVE to be nice to others.

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    After the first warning I would have simply released the dog from its prison, to roam free and wild. People who allow their dogs to bark like that have them for two reasons. One for a yard ornament, and two to give them warning because they are doing something illegal inside. There is no reason for allowing a dog to bark, if you trained them from a puppy, they will be obedient. Seems that poor little dog wanted some attention, and those folks don't deserve the love of an animal. Those are the people I made a comment about on the other forum titled "BRIGHT LIGHTS!!!!!!!" Same kind of folks..why do they have it...because they can...dop they love the animal...heck no, because if they did it wouldn't have barked and been leached to the trailer while they were gone. Not bad dog, but bad people for not raising it right and loving it like it deserves.

    Once a dog get to old and barked its entire life, there is only three solutions to the no stop barking. 1). Surgical sutting of the vocal chords 2). Barking collar 3). Give it to someone that lives way out in the middle of now where and needs it to warn of rattlesnakes coming into the yard.

    Most dog owners do thier animals right, but once in awhile you will run into a total moron like above. You can't teach the owners new tricks, you can only put barking collars on the owners!!!! LOL

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    As a proud mom of 6 wonderful dogs... I would say shame on those dog owners! How dare they even own a dog!

    When we go camping, we take our oldest and most calm dog...Louis... he is a 12 year old beagle basset mix. Don't get me wrong, he can whoop it up with the best of them. However, he is not a barker but rather a wimperer. He only wimps when he sees another dog or wants attention on a walk from a passer by. The most my Louis will do is give kisses! We usually take him with us when we leave the site. However, if we are only going to be gone for a short trip...say to the store and back, we will leave him in the PUP with Air on and windows closed. He can't see so well anymore so it really doesn't phase him to not look out the window. He will crawl up on the bed and take a long nap!


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    This is our first season with PU, and we have gone on 2 trips thus far. One with our dog, Molly, and one without (couldn't get a site that allowed pets). We have a wonderful lab that does not bark, growl or nip. We would never take her if she was a problem dog.

    We did run into one problem. We were campign with another couple who wanted to take us out tubing on their boat. Our Molly could not go of course. We put her in the PU with a fan blowing and the window shades down so she couldn't see the road. She decided to run through the door anyway about an hour after we left. The wonderful campers across the way, but her on her lead and gave her a bowl of water. According to the neighbor campers, she laid in the shade and only barked about one little ruff every half hour as if to say woos is me. They assured us she was quiet and not a problem. We have not nor will leave her in the PU again without one of us there. We are very thankful for the other campers for taking care of her.

    On a side note: we were able to fix the slightly bent door. :)



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    Hi Kathleen ........... Oldtimer here

    Glad your campout turned out OK. Glad for the Lab and the good neighbor. You would be a joy to camp next to. People who love their pets and are considerate of others also teach their pets to be nice too. My oldest daughter also owns a black Lab (Huey) and I've been on Tent camping trips with her family. The Lab was a joy to have around. Of course he was on a leash as per park rules. Still, 'Huey' had fun on the campout. He is a little 'hyper' but minds OK. Would grumble a little when hikers came by with their pets, but he remained lying down, and after a little scolding, would get back to begging for bits fron the kids.

    Hope you continue to have good campouts. Consider - your Lab loves water, fix him a float too...

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    I am a proud owner of a chocolate lab and a dauchshound. They both camp with us. We have no problems from Smoke (the Dauchshound) but Harley is another story. After reading thru this post I wonder if he should camp with us anymore. Harley is very mild mannered (Just 2 years old) and enjoys running, swimming and just plain playing. The problem being he is very vocal. He likes everyone to know he is present. The only time he has anything to say is when your in our campsite or walking by. We have tried everything with the exception of barking collars to get him to stop but to no avail. I don't believe Harley would ever hurt anyone but he is so intimidating because he is such a large breed of dog people are afraid of him. I would hate for people to think I am a bad person because my dog likes to bark. I do understand where everyone is coming from as it tends to irritate me also.

    His barking is usually just a short stent when he spys someone and then it's back to whatever he was doing before. He stays in the camper with us at night and leashed through out the day. It doesn't even matter if he knows you or not he is gonna bark at you when you get to our site...he even barks at me on my return from a hike or the showers. If anyone knows of a cure for this please let me know. If not I think poor Harleys camping days are numbered. I don't wish to ruin anyones camping trip.

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  18. Yellowkayak

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    Berligter,

    First let me thank you for posting your story...we all feel for you. We know dogs are barkers, that is what they do. but people do want peace and quite when they go camping. Try a barking collar. Its not a permanent thing and it DOES NOT hurt them, it mostly scares them at first. Soon they will learn that barking at everything is bad, and then they won't do it. Once he stops barking, then reward him every time someone walks by and he DOESN'T bark with his favorite snack. He will then learn that NOT barking is a good thing. Good luck and take him camping, just have to train him and a barking collar is just one way that is affective.

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    Hi Beerlifter .......... Oldtimer here

    I just posted previous to your post. Labs are like that... Lovable but alert. I don't think you should worry too much. After letting you know there might be a threat, then they're back to doing whatever. No, I think the main gripe everyone might be talking about are "Barking" dogs that wont shut up. And bark for hours on end. Not too pleasant when one is in a tent or popup tent-sided camper - ie. Barking sound not deadened by hard sidewalls and A/C unit running. And of course there are those that let their large dogs run loose.

    Sort of gripes me when a large barking dog races up to me, and the owner yells at me to "just stand still and let him smell you, he wont bite". Somehow I feel like I've just been 'kidnapped' for a few tense moments. Nope, don't like that. Pepper spray might be the answer tho.

    I hope you can keep taking your pets on your campouts. If they're well behaved - no problem.

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    We wouldn't camp somewhere we can't take our dog unless we were on a trip where we would be doing siteseeing and can't take the dog. I know there are always people that ruin it for others, there are bad parents that let their kids run amuck and we can't stop them from bringing their kids either. I wouldn't have a problem with a campground that had designated spots for people with dogs, I think it is a good idea. For those of us that our kids are mostly grown it is anoying to us when other people let their kids be obnoxious but then we know we may have to deal with things like this when camping. I also have a dog I would not want to take camping as he barks as everything and he even annoys us at times. He is ok at home but we don't take him out in public, last trip with him to PetSmart was his last as he disturbed the entire store and he only weighs 3lbs. go figure!!!!

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