@davido @lost boy Sorry it took so long to reply. Had one of those what the hell moments and at this age, I bought a bike 50 years ago so you can guess at it <GG>, I dont take falls like I remember taking them a few decades back. Not sure what happened. One second everything was ok and next I was laying on asphalt. The current theory is the right, rear axle nut slipped, the rear tire crammed into the left stay locking it hard, I slid off the seat at lockdown into the rams horn then knees first into the asphalt. Someone local fixed the bike so I could get home and damn, it did it a second time in his drive. Hurts. Now consistently ride 7.5 miles a day 7 days a week. Tweaked the diet a little more and with the bike ring the A1C is 5.3 and falling.