Calgary, Alberta - replacing the powerlift

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    Sometime in springtime I will be looking to have the powerlift replaced with a manual crank. Rockwood 1907, year 2007.
    Any decent place where I can have this done in/around Calgary Alberta?

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    Only place i know of is standens. They do mechanical stuff....i dont know if they do what u want.
     
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    Thanks. yes, most likely they will not do that. I will call them if they will be the last option. I heard that they do a good job on breaks, hitches etc...
     
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    Why remove it?
     
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    With shop rates averaging ~ $130 hr Cdn I can't imagine a mod like this on a 13 yr old popup being worth it. :( Any power lift system will have some method of disconnecting it electrically to allow one to operate the lift system manually and be one heck of a lot less costly (as in $0) than having some shop "replace" the power lift with a manual crank. If manually cranking the lift system is such a chore use a cordless drill to do the work for you at the fraction of the cost of having a shop modify the lift system for you.

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    @GreyFox: my camper doesn't have this option. or at least I haven't found it.
    I have this hole on the back bumper, but nothing behind the hole, the mechanism is missing (it looks like was never installed)
    The only one manual option that I have, involves dismantling the battery box (it is a pain to have it reinstalled), removing the electric engine housing and getting access to manual mode screw (drill operated). The thing is this screw is coming out while trying to lift the roof, it seems to work only going down.
     
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    Here's a place my storage facility owner recommended. I've only talked to them on the phone about a soft start capacitor but they seemed know their stuff and were honest, not just looking to get my money. They look like they are cheaper than most dealerships on labour too.

    https://swiftrvrepairs.com/
     
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    Do you not have this hole on your lift motor?(usually there is plug) 20200120_133510.jpg 20200120_133510.jpg
     
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    Thank you Derek

    @bheff: nope, I don't have that hole, but I am able to access the screw once I am removing the casing (an it is a pain to put it back). Also, on top of that, I have the battery installed there.
    That little screw was coming off once I tried to rise the roof. It was working ok on the other way, to bring down the roof. I don't know, maybe I was doing something wrong or no, anyway, it is like an 1hr intervention just to access that screw.
     
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    If you don't mind hauling it up to Edmonton....
    Wes @ WKS has been a saviour at times for repairs and parts.
    He can be found on Kijiji or just call him @ 780-469-3234
     
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    I found a couple of mechanics in Calgary, I guess I will take my chances here. Going to Edm it will add up to an already too expensive repair in report with the value of the trailer...
     
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    I got in touch with Swift RV Repairs (I hope is not an issue that I am mentioning their name) and they told me it is a easy peasy fix. The main cost will be the parts+shipping (about 350 cad) and the labor they estimate would be like 1 hr charge.
     
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    so, I got this replaced. So, I said it will be good to share my experience.
    It took me some time to get the trailer to the mechanic. He ordered the winch. 350.00 all in. I dropped the trailer, told him to check on my 7pin as I may have some issues with the brakes. As we discussed, 1.00-1.5 hr labor charge for winch replacement. So, what the heck, maybe another 1.00-2.00 hrs for the additional work....
    This was last Friday pm. Wed, evening, I got a call: Hey your trailer is ready. We have done this and that and such and such... Ok, what its the damage? 1550.00 or something like that. This on top of the 350.00 for the parts. 1900.00 work on a 13 years old 10ft box trailer... My heart stopped for a bit.
    Just check the invoice that I sent you by email he said... Yes X, but I haven't agreed with any of this work, you haven't called me ahead, you cannot just proceed with the work and now you tell me it is costing me more than 1500.00???
    Yes, but we have to have it done, to be safe on the road. Man, safe or not safe, if I knew it will cost me 1900.00 total, I will not have brought the trailer to you... What the heck, this is a 3000-4000.00 trailer.
    Yes, but I noticed there was some grease splash on the wheels and need it repacked (I greased myself the wheels last year, 500km ago, and most likely I over-greased, there was no heat on wheels, I checked them during the trip when I saw the splash), I proceed to replace the magnets on the brakes, the 1.00-1.5 hrs estimate on lift replacement are now 3.75 hrs because wee need to remove the jack... and you know the winch that I ordered for you? Oh well, who knew that winch is coming with no crank? but don't worry, I made a new crank for you, here it is 60.00 will cost you and don't worry, if there was a crank, most likely was too short and it will hit your propane bottle...
    I was speechless..

    I want to make the long story short, but you need to know. So, he proceed and split the original invoice in two invoices, one "what we agreed with" and the other one "safe for the road work". took out the repacking, decrease the work hrs on winch to 2.2 hrs from 3.75 (more reasonable for an estimate 1.0-1.5), zeroed the crank cost... and still when I added the totals of the invoices (I was wondering, why 2 invoices, and not only one, especially as it is an electronic invoice, you go to the link and see the invoice, so he can change there everything), so the total didn't match the expected "savings". Until I saw a 150.00 charge on both for the same work. Ok, he took that out after I point it to him.... I was like hmm.... honest mistake? who knows... why 2 invoices?.... I was like, I am too judgmental... but still don't feel right that to have such much $ work without calling me ahead.
    So now I am down to around 950.00 + 350.00.... Still too high for what I wanted, but I said "live and learn"....This is my lesson, don't take white hair and sweet talking for honesty... I told him I am good, go and put the charge to CC.
    I am there to pick up the trailer and I said, I would like to pop it up to see it is going up to the end, I don't want extra stress. He said, of course, check it. I open the trailer door, pull out a crank (turn out to be my crank for the stabilizers), a bit confused I asked: this is the crank? Oh no, there is no crank. you wanted to lower the cost of the invoice so, no crank for you... So how I suppose to check it out? Yes, but you wanted to lower the cost of the invoice "you can't have it both ways" he said...
    what the h.... man... Give me the crank and charge 60.00. I am done arguing with the fact that you ordered the parts and it was on you to ensure I am getting everything that I need in the price you quoted and if there are is something that you missed, I expect for you to cover for it, especially in this case where the work was going 3 times more that what we discussed... I can expect a 10-20% from an estimate, but not something like that...
    very disappointing...
    stellar reviews on internet, until I saw a review 3 years old review with the same issue: overcharging on parts and the work done without agreement and ending up with the billing 3x more than expected.

    so, if you are in Calgary, think twice were are you going with your trailer
     
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    Your camper may be worth $3000 to $4000 to you but it's wholesale value is much lower - exactly the reason many if not most shops will refuse work on any trailer more than 10 yrs old, particularly a popup. Call it a lesson learned. ;)
     
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    Thank you for the advice.
     

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