Back on the subject, have you noticed how many state parks and campgrounds have noise limits/quiet hour policies posted online, taped to the wall in their office and strictly enforced? Like them or not, they exist everywhere and people get kicked out for that stuff. I had a ranger stop by once to say “no more music” at 9pm because she barely heard it walking down the road. Some of these places don’t even let you set up your camper after dark, which I would have appreciated the night our neighbor pulled in at 10pm, set up his PUP and hammered stakes into the ground at 11pm, waking up our whole family. This is why we can’t have nice things. I think camping changed because people changed. It used to be a night mostly of crackling fires and quiet conversations. A few people disrespected others, abused the freedom, got drunk around the fire and blasted their music until midnight a few too many times. Enough complaints lead to where we are now - policies to keep groups of 20-somethings camping with friends or 50-somethings whose kids are grown up from ruining it for the senior citizens and parents of young kids (like me) who hit the hay at 9pm, because regardless of what time my kids go to bed, they inevitably wake up at 6am. Quite honestly, I appreciate these policies and enforcement. If I had to choose, I’d take this way versus a free for all, hoping everyone is considerate of others. I don’t think people would appreciate me getting drunk around a campfire and blasting my music at 6am. We respect others and honor early quiet hours so they can sleep in and enjoy their morning coffee.