Carrying bicycles?

Discussion in 'Cargo Carriers / Bike Racks / Other Storage Option' started by gypsysooners, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. Morgan23

    Morgan23 Member

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    It's not just the strength of your bumper that you need to keep in mind; it seems many PUPs are not very stabel with the extra weight on the back! We discovered that a PO had welded a hitch & receiver to our PUP's frame, so we figured that we would be ok putting a couple of bikes on the back of the PUP. We even put a little extra weight (about 75#) in front of the PUP's axle to try and minimize any sway issues. In this photo you can see that our PUP generally has a lot of weight distributed toward the tongue due to how far back the axle is...but we were paranoid about those bikes (one adult bike and two kids' bikes).
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    bike rack on the back by shizzknits, on Flickr
    We only went a about 10 miles from our house for our maiden voyage with the bikes on the back of the PUP and within 5 minutes of getting on the freeway I was ready to take them off! [:O] There was a lot of extra porpoising between the PUP and the back of the Funbus, plus we went around one curve and while there was no actual 'sway'....I did NOT like the way the PUP handled with the extra weight back there. And it definitely changed the way the Funbus drove as well.
    Keep in mind our PUP is very light: ~1500# loaded so if you had a heavier PUP (or beefier TV) it might work better.
    We are still looking at different ways to carry the bikes....I doubt we have room for the double receiver (plus I worry about the tongue weight as minivans tend to saggy butts when towing). We can't use any of the hatch mounted carriers due to the spoiler on the back of the van. So that leaves the top of the PUP or the top of the Funbus. Right now the top of the PUP looks to be the most likely place, though we are still trying to figure out how exactly we are going to mount some kind of rack system on the roof!
     
  2. kcandstinger

    kcandstinger New Member

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    We went on Craigs list and bought to Dahan fold up bikes so we just put them in our pick up truck and love using them on the trails. They have 6 speeds and are so much fun on the easier bike trails. Love that you can put your foot out if you feel you are going to fall over in this Florida sand. Much easier than bringing our hybreds.
     
  3. fmbhappycamper

    fmbhappycamper PuP Power

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    That was my alternative- a folding bike, actually pretty comfy for a short ride [8D]
     
  4. Morgan23

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    Yeah, that's looking like our other alternative: folding bikes for me and DH (and maybe the bigger munchkin)....but still need to carry the smaller kid bike. We are supposed to go camping in the next couple of weeks and at this rate we may just wrap the kids' bikes in a blanket and throw them on top of the PUP, then strap the whole mess down LOL
     
  5. Flyfisherman

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    For sure I know zilch about the Coachman/Clipper line but I have serious doubts about the rear bumper strength with a bike rack added. As you know the main frame (some refer to it as the main frame rails) have the suspension (wheels) attached along with the front A-frame (trailer tongue). Then the sub-frame extends out from the main frame and supports the floor and camper walls. This sub-frame does not have the strength of the main frame and sometimes mistaken for same.

    If I were to fabricate another rear mounted bike rack I would do so with a class II receiver being welded to the those main frame rails and find a bike carrier to fit the receiver. Now my bike rack carried only two adult sized bikes and the total weight of the rack and the bikes came to less then 100 lbs - and even then that weight had to be compensated forward ... you cannot mess up the balance of the camper.

    The only other pic I have is posted below and it has just one bike mounted. Also that bike rack was made just for a p'up camper and I'm sorry to say no longer available. I understand the manufacturer simply could not get their customers to install it correctly.


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  6. BigBaron

    BigBaron Dreaming of Tommy's chili cheeseburgers...

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    Thanks for the pic! Here's a pic of our trailer's rear bumper. It looks like the box is just to support the spare tire.

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    I think I'll leave the bikes on the back of our TV... ;)
     
  7. gypsysooners

    gypsysooners Both retired and loving it! Free Thinkers

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    Big Baron, it looks like the bumper is welded to the main frame in three places. It looks like it could carry 100 pounds, especially without the spare's weight?
     
  8. BigBaron

    BigBaron Dreaming of Tommy's chili cheeseburgers...

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    But seeing the comment about sway was also considered. I'll just keep on doing it the way I have for years. It works, keeps the bikes clean, and doesn't impact my mileage. Also the trailer looks nicer! ;)
     
  9. jerry_ma

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    I did the same as BigBaron when I had the mesa and taurus s/w TV.

    Sorry I have no pics as it was 20 years ago
    Jerry
     
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    I have a Hyundia Tucson with a towing cap of 2100 lbs and a max TW of 200 lbs. I found that the 1990 starcraft starstream I have has a TW of 300 lbs. By adding a class 3 receiver extender bar welded with some 2 inch angle iron to the main frame, I can put two adult bikes and a 3rd child bike without any issues.

    I have done this due to the extra 100 lbs of TW on the front to help balance it. But, I also didn`t notice any droop or negatives towing with a 300 lbs TW even though my manual says max 200.

    TW - Tongue weight)
     
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    We just got some Thule insta-gators and it does take up some room in the back of the truck but it sets up in seconds and the bikes don't move an inch.
     
  12. gixer

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    I see pictures that people hang there bike rack off the back of the TV. The mount them high so the rack is pressed up on the back window.
    That is a big NO NO. Please dont do this.
    Its not safe and the window is not made to have the rack pressing on it.
     
  13. BigBaron

    BigBaron Dreaming of Tommy's chili cheeseburgers...

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    As a former rack specialist for the largest bike shop west of the Mississippi (in the late 80s), I have no idea of what you are talking about. The glazing on the rear of a vehicle is extremely strong.


    If the bottom portion of the folding rack is on the glass, the rack is too high, and the weight of the bikes could break the glass when going over a bump. If only the top half of the rack is on the glass, there shouldn't be a problem. We have used a folding rack on our Hyundai mini-van with three full-sized bikes since 2006. I used Yakimas on my other cars.


    Here's a really old photo, taken before I installed air shocks and washing our trailer! [LOL]


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    I've actually mounted Yakima roof racks on the rear hatches of minivans and the trunks of high-end sedans so the bikes are vertical and out of the wind. (you have to add taillights on the vans, though) I wish I took pics.
     
  14. Old_Geezer

    Old_Geezer Well-Known Member

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    Bikes, how about that road? So they have to mow the roads in Korea even though they are paver stones [LOL]
     
  15. gixer

    gixer New Member

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    Thats great for you BigBaron.
    I know to keep away from you if I see you on the road.
    Its not safe to have the racks rest on the glass.
    You can head the warning or do what you like.
    I am just passing along the info that its not safe to keep the racks on the glass.


     
  16. BigBaron

    BigBaron Dreaming of Tommy's chili cheeseburgers...

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    I guess Yakima's, Thule's, and all the other rack manufacturers' liability lawyers are idiots then...

    And I guess being a commercial glazing and caulking contractor (EVERY highrise in downtown Los Angeles except one - and in San Francisco, San Diego, Vegas,...), not to mention over three decades of cycling/using racks mean I don't know that it's safe.

    Unless you can show me some tangible evidence as to why it's unsafe to put a rack on the glass, I'll tell everyone that's it's ok to do it-because it is. :p
     
  17. gixer

    gixer New Member

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    You can tell them what every you like.
    The retail market always misinforms the public to make the sale.
    Being in the automotive industry for the last 26 year as an engineer all I am going to suggest as per the car MFG is that dont put any thing on the glass.
    Its not made for that.
    FYI the glass in building is not the same as in a car.
    Just passing the info along that its not safe.
    Do with it what you will.




     

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