Okay, we've only been looking for a little while for a NTU or New PUP but we're actually going to seriously consider a NEW 2017 Coachman Clipper 108ST...list is $13,662 at General RV. Anyone have any thoughts on this model, I know at least one of you has the 2012 version which is pretty identical but any other thoughts. I have a few reservations with it... 1. The cables for the bunks and thought they hold 1k lbs, I'm wondering about wear and tear? 2. There is empty space next to the electrical box under the seating but I have to remove a screw so is that "wasted" space? 3. Reliability of the lift system? Has anyone had any issues? 4. Can I use my drill (3/8") on the supports or is the torque too much for them and do I need my 1/2" drill? On the up side... 1. The DW and DD's could easily take this by themselves for a "Girls Weekend" as it goes up so easy with a portable drill. 2. Front storage is awesome. 3. The Lounge "Goucho" bench seat opens into a bed so the DD's could actually take a friend. I've discussed the "Solar" situation in an earlier post so that's helpful and something she likes but if you have any thoughts please let me know. We'd still like to to look at a New Jayco but since they were bought out by THOR I'm leary of the quality going down. Thanks in advance.