concerned about sleep apnea

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  1. stormspotter

    stormspotter New Member

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    My father in law has real bad sleep apnea. He has a cpap device at home. But justs want to bring o2 with us on our two week trip to montana. If any of u have sleep apnea will this work over an extended period? or should we try to lug the big cpap with us. The one he has is very hugh.
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  2. Aslosman

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    I would take the Cpap. be sure to get an electric site i don't think the PU battery will handle it.

    Now you have your answer to what should go in the inlaws trunk. :)

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  3. suprz

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    Bring the CPAP. no question

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  4. mkd0907

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    Take the cpap machine. If it is too big or cumbersome, check with your local medical supply store about a smaller, more portable one that you could purchase or rent for the two weeks.

    DH has a cpap machine and the difference is noticable after only one night without it. (Hate it when the electric goes out!)

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  5. mercman

    mercman Go Ahead, Be That Happy Camper!

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    Just my 2 cents for anyone with sleep apnea. I had a major Sleep Apnea problem. Went for the sleep studies and found out I was getting the equivelant of snoozing on the couch for 20 mins instead of a deep REM sleep. I tried the CPAP and found it to bothersome and annoying. I went for the surgery, had my septum fixed, tonsils removed along with the adnoids, part of my palate and the little thingy hanging in the back of your throat. Also had the sinus done. It was hell for 2 weeks and lost 15 lbs due to a jello/sherbet diet.
    After I healed and the swelling went down, the difference was night and day. My sense of smell improved vastly( I had my dog for two years, sat next to her on the couch after I recovered and said "you smell like dog" She agreed. I had never picked up that smell, I walked into the backyard and it was amazing how many smells I never picked up on. I also stopped snoring.

    I would reccommend the surgery to anyone suffering from Sleep apnea, BTW, I wasn't overweight and I was only 35 at the time. So it isn't a age or weight issue, although that does contribute to it.

    back to the original question, Bring the Cpap and you will need 120v. They do make smaller machines now.

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  6. Digger

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    Yep, bring a CPAP...though, as mentioned, look into renting one. Check with a Medical Supply company.

    I, too, had Sleep Apnea quite bad in my late 30s. I had a sleep eval and was mazed at the number of apenic episodes a <b>minute</b>. Since then I've lost 50lbs and my apnea has completely disappeared.

    And for folks that do not know what Sleep Apnea is...it is numerous episodes of the inability to properly move air while sleeping. You actually stop breathing for brief periods of time. Symptoms are heavy snoring and daytime sleepiness even after a "good" night's sleep.

    Untreated Sleep Apnea can be extrememly dangerous. The mortality rate for folks with Sleep Apnea is very high. If a loved one has heavy snoring and is tired during the day, please get them checked out.

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  7. johnandangela

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    Definately bring the cpap. I will reaffirm....look into renting a small portable machine. Mine weighs about 5 lbs, including the humidifier and has a travel case. Last year while camping I was showing the hybrid to a neighboring camper who was looking into upgrading. He saw my cpap and announced that he was a sales rep for a major cpap co. and he had his machine in his camper. The neighbor in the campsite behind us was in our campsite and said he had his cpap with him. 3 campers out of 3 camp sites had cpap machines. Definitely bring the cpap machine.

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  8. srds

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    Bring the CPAP even if you don't find a smaller rental-call his doctor and see if he can change units.

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  9. Yooperwannabe

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    I use 02 full time and a CPAP at night. If your FIL was told by a doctor that he needs to use both then there is no question, he needs to take both with him. I know that sometimes people in this situation feel that we are being a PITA when we require so much extra "gear" while traveling/camping/having fun. That may be why he suggests leaving it at home.

    In my case the O2 concentrator is bigger and heavier than my CPAP which is very light, about 5 lbs and has it's own travel case. My O2 travel concentrator on the other hand is about 35. While I have heard that a CPAP will run off battery, I am sure that you will need electric hookups for the 02 unless....

    Your FIL might have liquid O2 or may be using a battery powered concentrator called the Inogen One, but even that would need to be recharged every four hours or so and can't be used with the CPAP.

    If he does have a larger CPAP then I would, as others have said, look into renting a smaller more portable device.

    Please don't let the amount of equipment your FIL needs deter him from camping and having fun. My family kindly packs everything I need when we go camping and even tho I am tethered by the nose to an O2 tank by day and then turn into a women with a mask at night...we have a great time and I love them all the more for helping me to have fun.

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    My youngest son was on oxygen for 3 1/2 years. We like to travel, but the higher altitudes of northern Utah mountains really affected him. I always brought spares and made sure I knew where the nearest full service medical supply store is located (just in case).Luckily, we never needed to get an emergency supply . I would strongly recommend having a spot with electrical capabilities. Don't forget to have fun!

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    My husband has sleep apnea and sleeps with the machine at home. We have only been going on weekend trips, so we haven't brought the machine, but we are planning to Memorial Day weekend. When we don't bring it he is very very tired and usually needs a nap because he doesn't sleep well without the machine. He did have the surgery, but does have a bit of a weight problem which the doctor said doesn't help the situation. Good luck

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    My CPAP goes on every machine. I have the 12 v adapter for it and have gone 3 nights with it on the battery before. I doubt I could go much longer. Why not bring it and if you don't use it, no harm, no foul?

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    Hubby has sleep apnea...take the cpap. Everyone will thank him for it!

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  14. Michel

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    Banjorules,

    What kind of 12-volt adapter do you use for your C-PAP? I am curious as to how you have set up your system. I would like to have the option of doing some "boondocking", but without my C-PAP I am a zombie after a night or two.

    Michel

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    I'm going in to my Doctor's next week for my yearly checkup and I'm getting a referral from him so I can go be tested for sleep apnea. I know I have it, got all the signs. Thing is, the only time I do sleep well is when I'm out camping. So maybe I won't have to take a C-PAP with me. We will see, I'll let you all know after the results come back. I just hope the cats don't chew on the tube.

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  16. EvTech

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    I know it sounds like a broken record but I'll also vote for taking the CPAP with you. Not only to combat the apnea and prevent any snoring but also because, if it's hot at night where you'll be camping, everyone can crowd around and cool off in the exhaust from the CPAP mask. <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Smile">

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    I have been doing the research. This is what I have found to date.

    This seems like a good site that shows how it can be done: http://tinyurl.com/6epnuw.

    I have checked, my C-PAP works with 12-volt current. If I understood the jargon correctly, it draws 1.7 amps per hour of electricity. I can buy at my local hardware store (Canadian Tire) a power inverter that connects to a marine battery and allows me to plug my C-PAP into the inverter and use the battery as a source of electricity. If I buy the best deep cell battery, I will have 103 Amp hours. In theory then, this will allow me to use my C-PAP for roughly 60 hours. Does this sound correct?

    Total cost of the set-up (in Canadian dollars) would be $119.99 for the deep cell battery and $24.99 for the 300W inverter (now on sale). Total cost $144.98 (+taxes). Being able to sleep with still be able to stay in campgrounds without electricity: priceless :)

    If somebody has such a set-up, I would welcome your feedback.

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    EvTech Vancouver (not BC), WA (not DC)

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    Michel,
    I'm not a guru on electricity but my understanding is that you are only partially correct in your calculations. You are considering all 103 amp hours as being available to you while in reality a battery is effectively discharged at 50%. This means you would only have about 30 hours of usage available. I don't know if the battery would be dedicated solely to CPAP use or if it would have other draws on it. Obviously other draws would further decrease it's useful life.

    A couple of possible solutions: Use two 6 VDC batteries in series rather than one 12 VDC. This would greatly increase your number of amp hours.

    Get a solar kit to at least partially recharge your battery (or batteries) during the day. It's not cheap but it would give you more amp hours.

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    Thanks EvTech!

    Even 30 hours wouldn't be too bad. Enough to give me a 3 or 4 nights of decent sleep, and 3 or 4 nights of my wife not contemplating divorce as my snoring would be echoing through the tent trailer and campground without my trusty C-PAP :)

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    Well, I figured out how to connect my C-PAP to a deep cycle marine battery. I bought the battery adapter cable (DC Battery Adapter) and the 12 volt power cord (Cigarette Lighter Adapter Cord) from my dealer (note: I did not order from the online store, but they had the best photos. It might have been cheaper to buy online, but I did not want to risk getting it after leaving for my trip). Tonight, I will test it out at home, and I will see how long I can use my C-PAP with a 70AH battery. I will report back once I do know.

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