Cougar stalks hiker for 6 minutes

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  1. PopUpSteve

    PopUpSteve Administrator

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    More of a "get out of my territory" behavior than a stalking "I'm gonna kill you" behavior.

    He wasn't that big of a guy from what you see of him at the end, and his holding the camera probably didn't help as it would keep his arms in front of his body instead of outspread.

    I hope the cougar is left alone and not gone after because of this. She handled herself very well.
     
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    My first responce if that was me and i was really scared would be to not film it. But what do i know.
     
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    Toedtoes Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't be calling the cougar dude over and over and making grunting noises like a pig either...

    As I watched it, it was like deja vu. My cousin talked to my Bat-dog just like that all the time. The constant "dude", the back and forth between being nice and being aggressive, the movements, etc. She hated him. She never felt at ease around him and always saw him as threatening. I do wonder if that had a lot to do with the cougar's behavior towards him.
     
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    Drop phone. Pick up big rocks.
    Millennials need to film everything for some reason.
     
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    It's not just millenials. I see folks of all ages unwilling to put down the gopro.
     
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    Another naive person in nature where he doesn't belong.
    Filming and talking to the cat, lame.
     
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    If the cougar were stalking the hiker you wouldn't see the cougar in the video, the hiker wouldn't see the cougar. She's just escorting him out of her territory.
     
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    Read an article that said the guy was hiking and came upon four cubs. It took him several "moments" to realize the mom was right there. That's when she started chasing him away.

    The best thing to do if you see cubs, is to leave the area immediately. I suspect he didn't do that and mom got pissed.
     
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    Make yourself look as big as possible and as hard as it sounds don't back down or run.
    Lucky for him it wasn't Mamma bear and her cubs!!!
     
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    This is not stalking, it’s get out of here behavior.
     
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    I would much rather run into mamma mountain lion than mamma bear.
    Mamma bears don't think twice or give you any warning... They just rock your world.
     
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    In my life's experience I have found that you don't want to be between any mamma and her offspring. This includes humans.
     
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    tfischer A bad day camping beats a good day at the office

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    Lots of armchair experts here lol. I personally would have tried the rock a lot earlier than he did, but he had said he was afraid that might aggravate the cat into attack mode.

    As for how he talked/reacted... he was clearly very scared. He was alternating between talking calmly to reassure the cat, and growling to try to startle it off. I'm not sure how I would have reacted in that situation... he clearly thought there was a very real chance he was going to die.
     
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    Most will warn you and give you chance to back off...Bears don't.
     
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    I am a armchair expert...Filming would never cross my mind in that situation.
    I would make myself look big...Never turn away and most important...Anywhere where i may be attacked by a animal
    that could kill me i am not walking around unarmed...A side arm is a great equalizer in a situation where your options may be limited.
     
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    Aladin Sane I'd rather be camping

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    Big cats are why I almost always go armed in the woods. In the video, I would have been throwing rocks as soon as I knew the cat was interested in me. If I was armed, I would have fired a warning shot early on.
     
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    Mama was escorting him from the cubs.. i would have walked backwards also to keep her in sight at all times.

    I thought grab a rock or stick to defend myself during first viewing.. after thinking more about it i dont know if he had time, and how would the cat react if you were to stop and bend towards it? More agressive? I kept thinking how bad it could escalate if he were to trip..

    Had i been carrying and experience that i certainly would have let a few warning shots off.
     
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    Animals don’t have a clue what a warning shot is. Only that you made a loud noise. Bears will also try to run you off but some are not so patient.
     
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    I'm no expert on this by any means, but all I could think of that whole time is that I would have a big jagged rock in my hand. There were plenty there to pick up. If I was to throw a rock at it, I can almost guarantee 100% that I would miss it and it would take the opportunity to attack, so instead of throwing my weapon away, I'll just hang onto the rock incase that thing decides to jump on me. Holy, I'd be crapping my pants on that one. The guy keeps walking away to show he's no threat to the young ones, but mom keeps following, yikes!
     
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