Cougar stalks hiker for 6 minutes

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  1. 1380ken

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    Okay tiger king
     
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    tfischer A bad day camping beats a good day at the office Gold Supporting Member

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    Absolutely no way they should euthanize the cougar. This is the cougars' environment... at the worst they should close the trail to humans while there is danger there.

    I'm surprised nobody mentioned running with bear spray... a non-lethal way to prevent an attack.
     
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    The guy was trying to get closer and closer to the cub. That IS a threat in the eyes of a mama cougar. 50ft is WAY too close to a wild animal. Trying to get even closer than that is stupid and idiotic.

    The cougar then ran at the guy to scare him off, just like any animal would do - get the threat as far away from the baby as possible. If he had not backed off at that first run, he very likely would have been attacked. This is the only smart thibg he did - he saw a cougar charging towards him and started to back up.

    At that point, the cougar WALKED towards the guy as he backed up. Just like any animal would do. Keep pushing the threat away as far as possible.

    When the guy stopped, the cougar made a false attack. Notice how her first action was very attack-like, but at the moment that she would have charged, she threw her feet in front of her to stop. It was like a person starting to swing their arm to hit someone, but pulling the arm back at the last moment. She was doing this purposely - she was telling him he was still too close and he needed to keep backing up. Once he started backing up again, she went back to her escorting duties.

    Anyone who thinks that he was "too far away to be a threat" to her or her cub should not be allowed in the wilderness. That attitude is why people get attacked by wildlife so often - because they don't understand that a "social distance of six feet" is NOT acceptable in the animal world. And that moving towards a baby at any distance IS a threat in the eyes of its mama.
     
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    I guess that was intended to insult me.
     
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    If that cat wanted to attack we would be reading about a guy hiking and being attacked.
    That cat had every oppurtunity to attack and that hiker was lucky.
    It wasnt a starving cat looking for a easy meal.
    It was a concerned mother protecting its young.
    Nothing else as far as i see.
     
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    Local Fish & Game there is not going to bother that lion. They closed the area and that’s it. No need to “terminate “ anything. Obviously not staking, you never see them until they latch on to your throat. I see baby anything around here and I’m out,fast, no pics. Bear, lion, elk, deer will all violently protect their young
     
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    tfischer A bad day camping beats a good day at the office Gold Supporting Member

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    Except they left out the part about how stupid millennials have to film everything, and how he did everything wrong, like our "experts" here pointed out lol
     
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    Yeah, they were being nice. They should have pointed out that his initial behavior of walking towards wild animals was stupid - doesn't matter if he thought they were bobcats or anything else. He should have backed away immediately and let them move on.
     
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    tfischer A bad day camping beats a good day at the office Gold Supporting Member

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    Honestly if you had asked me if bobcats or cougars were more viscous, I couldn't have told you lol.

    We were at NSMNP this summer and a bear was off the trail. Another group was watching it, plenty safe distance, but then others came up the trail and got closer and closer... eventually the bear came up the hill and toward the path and we gave it even more distance even though we were still quite far away, meanwhile the bigger group just stood there, and the bear literally ran between two people, had to be within 10 feet. People are dumb lol. I had bear spray with me too, and I bet they didn't. The bear was a young guy and just wanted past, he seemed more intimidated with the group than they were of him.
     
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    Yep. I love nature and I love seeing wild animals in their element. But as much as I would love to get that great closeup of a wild animal in the wild, I will keep my distance. It just isn't worth it - for my safety NOR the animal's well being. Fortunately, I have a good zoom lens so I can stay back and get an OK shot.
     
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    You're right, I've been noticing it myself. During the 90s I was having dinner on the gulf coast when a water spout formed just off shore. I'm looking around for the sturdiest shelter I can find in case it comes on shore. I look back to see what it's doing and people are running out the dock to take pictures.
     
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    I remember driving down the freeway the day of my dad's big birthday. There was a car accident that had been moved to the hillside beside the road. Some guy was driving down the freeway, standing up while steering, with his head and one hand holding his phone sticking out of the sunroof trying to get photos of the accident. Certainly wasn't a millennial because they were still all under 10 years old.

    My cousin's family and I were joking the other night about his "accident". He had come to my house for a weekend and the first night he got drunk. He wouldn't let me leave the bathroom light on for him. Around 2 am, I wake up to a loud thump in my stairwell. I called out "is that you?" and he said yes and he was stuck. I turned on the light and he had fallen down the stairs and landed on the landing with his nekkid butt straight in the air and his legs bent awkwardly around a small table I had there. Now, I freely admit the first thing that crossed my mind was " get the camera!". But common sense won out and I helped him get up and made sure he was OK. No matter how much fun that photo would be now, I would have never forgiven myself if I had wasted time taking photos and he was truly hurt.

    My photography is important, but it doesn't ovverride my common sense. Unfortunately that is rare these days.
     
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    One thing is certain, the media is going to sensationalize everything they can, all in the name of the mighty advertising dollar! This video has made them a lot of money. Aside from that the guy did everything he should have done, except maybe getting too close to begin with. Even if they had been Bobcat kittens he'd been up the creek with no paddle! Ahhh yes, hind sight is 20/20, isn't it?
     
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    Cats turn their bodies sideways and bow up their backs in a defensive mode to make themselves appear bigger to their attackers (are what they feel is threat to them or their babies). Even domesticated cats (pets) do this type of behavior when in a fight mode or to scare away their attackers (are what they feel is threat to them or their babies).
     
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    Thank you for explaining this.
     

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