Coyote Encounter

Econ

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Aug 18, 2019
1,808
Deep South
This demonstrates the law of unintended consequences. FYI, There was a rabies outbreak 5 or 10 miles north of me about 10 years ago caused by wildlife. This chain eventually gets to coyote encounters.

Kids are no longer taught to deer hunt. This combined with insane state hunting laws lead to the second largest herd in the country. Texas has us beat.

Some moron who never has been around deer moved into the subdivision and set up a deer feeder. At 10AM it went off feeding deer. So at 9:30AM every deer in the city ran to this feeder, crossing streets with wild abandon causing car collisions. Clueless never figured it out he was the cause. Fortunately he moved.

Other morons set feeders up but not on the main thoroughfare. It should be well known, but isn't, that animals judge the amount of offspring according to food available. So the deer started dropping twins instead of singles increasing population furthering the overpopulation problem. These low IQ morons haven't figured out why the population is up or why car/deer collision is the number 1 insurance claim in the state.

Well word got around in the coyote community that this subdivision was super rich in food so they migrated like Californians to a promises land. Those fawns make a nice meal for the Coyotes. I've watched them in action hunting. They run the fawn til it collapses then rips it apart.

So we have a deer and coyote overpopulation. The low IQ don't realize that coyotes like cats and mop dogs. Both are not big enough to defend themselves. So they put up their "missing cat" signs in wonderment.

So on to the main topic. How successful would a man be if confronted by a rabid coyote in surviving without having to get a rabies shot series, opinions? My understanding from a patient is they are very painful.

There is a park 5 miles from here that doesn't have vegetation below 6'.

Rains quit. Time to get to work.

Yes, the yotes run around here like stray dogs.
 

PopAnimal

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Oct 26, 2022
219
Southern New Mexico
So in my experiences, I have seen coyotes run across streets and have seen them at a distance too far for hunting. However they are very existant here in my neck of the woods. More often than not I can hear loud, large packs both at my house ( about 15 miles from the city ) and just last weekend while camping. I have even distinguished their calls and know if its just a locate howl or yip to a call to hunt. Last weekend I heard a large pack call to hunt which ended with the night piercing screams of their victim. Sadly two years ago at the same spot, there was a couple camping a ways away and they were looking for their small dog. We had also heard a hunt the night prior with victorious results on their part. I'm nervous about taking my cheweenie camping with me, she is a scardy cat/cuddle bug so I know she wouldn't run off. But I do know she would make a light snack as well. As far as a human, here they haven't been emboldened enough to want to encounter me. In a situation you describe, IF the coyote(s) were not rabid, the attack would do signifigant damage to a person. They are a sneaky, mischevious gang. If the coyote were rabid, It only takes 1, and usually the sick ones are discharged from the pack so It would be 1 and definately not a good situation.
 

Sjm9911

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May 31, 2018
13,640
Nj
You know what, I didnt realize that. In nj we have been seeing more coyotes. I didnt even thing they were in this area, but I was wrong. People have been posting pictures on them. But the deer population is larger then ever. No culling anymore, and no sterilization like the 1980s. And people feed them. Most say people are invading there land, and yada, yada, but I think you have it nailed down. If they dont cull them and they get freindly, and people feed them you have a problem.
 

Tonya Harding

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Jun 15, 2018
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Virginia
Had 'em around us for a number of years now as they've migrated east; they used to move on once the food supply dwindled, but as Econ mentioned, crap loads of people feed deer & they're rampant, find scat in the yard on occasion, & found a section of deer hide/fur out front a couple of weeks ago. Yotes are extreme adaptive, & carry litters depending on how big their population is. Only rabies here have come from skunks/raccoons & the occasional fox thus far, & I keep a 12 gauge by the sliding glass doors upstairs leading to the upper deck in case a yote passes by. 4 cats & 2 small dogs have vanished the past 5 years on the ridge, some won't heed the warnings...
 
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Econ

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Aug 18, 2019
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Deep South
Carry a gun or a good bear spray if you think that a coyote attack is possible. Practice with both before you need them.
I'm too old to take a needless ass kicking. It's called my downtown friend because I take it when going downtown. I just wanted to avoid carrying in my own neighborhood if possible. Plus, there are city laws for wanting to stay alive <GG>
 

Econ

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Aug 18, 2019
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People have been posting pictures on them
I'm looking at two houses from my desk. One has a photo of a Yote approaching her front porch in broad daylight. The other frequently posts on the community electronic bulletin board Yote crossings across her back yard in broad daylight. It's the rabid ones that concern me.
 

PopAnimal

Active Member
Oct 26, 2022
219
Southern New Mexico
There is active population control efforts out here. They are considered a "no liscense" species and I do not see any over hunting situation happening here. Even though out liscensed animal hunts are on a lottery system, the population control if deer/elk is good. The Forrest has a lot of free graze for herds of cattle. I can see a fawn of baby calf being prey, even though elk and cattle tend to herd care for their young and mother's. Most coyotes are kiddish of humans, I've miss many an encounter. But I do have several deterrent calibers if one or more were to be a bit too friendly. People feed deer here, and that's either ignorance or luring. One person I spoke to at tractor supply one day couldn't understand why they saw a bear by their deer feeder........ And here I am setting mice traps to keep them out of my goat feed. Mice are a great meal for legless clicky nope ropes out here, go figure.
 

Bowman3d

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Apr 13, 2015
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LaLa land (SoCal)
Controlling coyote population is very difficult. Like Econ mentioned birth rates correspond to food availability. Killing coyote leads to more available food which means higher birth rates, which means more coyotes. On top of that coyotes are highly adaptable, LA has a high coyote population. I live in a small city,It's not uncommon for me to see coyotes , Often during the day and by themselves. It's normal behavior but people panic and think they are "Rabid". Its also common here for people to post that they find someone's cat torn apart on their front lawn.
As far as people feeding deer are concerned they should learn what Carrying Capacity means and what the consequences of deer overpopulation are.
 
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gladecreekwy

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Sep 25, 2016
1,905
Jackson Wyoming
We hear coyotes almost every night in summer. Since there’s literally millions of acres of NF surrounding us there is very little issues with them. A few more missing cats for sure but that’s about it. Camping we hear them but our dogs keep them away. I’m sure bear spray would send one running. They have been killing them around here for the last 100 years and it hasn’t hurt them one bit. They are smart and tough critters. Folks are going to have to learn to live with them
 

LadyEarp

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Nov 12, 2022
40
There's a lot of coyotes where I am at. I listen to them every night. Have seen a few. A pair of them had a literal stare down with my 90 pound dog. They turned and walked away. I had my firearm but was shaking in my shoes. Saw a lone one run past one night. He seemed preoccupied with wherever he was headed to pay attention to me. But certain times of night I can hear them yipping it up. It does sound awesome, to be honest with you. I don't go anywhere out here in the woods without my dog and my handgun.
Do coyotes eat coons? Cuz, damn... there's plenty of those vermin around here for them to snack on!
 

toucan

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Sep 19, 2022
196
Western Oregon
There's a lot of coyotes where I am at. I listen to them every night. Have seen a few. A pair of them had a literal stare down with my 90 pound dog. They turned and walked away. I had my firearm but was shaking in my shoes. Saw a lone one run past one night. He seemed preoccupied with wherever he was headed to pay attention to me. But certain times of night I can hear them yipping it up. It does sound awesome, to be honest with you. I don't go anywhere out here in the woods without my dog and my handgun.
Do coyotes eat coons? Cuz, damn... there's plenty of those vermin around here for them to snack on!
A 25 lb. raccoon is more than a match for a 40 lb. coyote. I suppose a coyote would take a little one if it got the chance. They aren't known for being discriminating eaters.
 

LadyEarp

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Nov 12, 2022
40
A 25 lb. raccoon is more than a match for a 40 lb. coyote. I suppose a coyote would take a little one if it got the chance. They aren't known for being discriminating eaters.
Coons are menacing. That's for sure. I got rid of one tonight. Tired of him tearing up my place.
So maybe something out here will snack on at least that coon!
 




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