Disagreement

poppy65

Member
May 10, 2015
94
I dont have an a frame.
But everyone camps diffrently. If thats what they want to do, and don't want to change, then thats on them. But as long as they said their happy, who cares. I think everyone in everycamper, eventually finds every space to store
 

poppy65

Member
May 10, 2015
94
I saw a vlog by a couple that bought an A-frame camper a few years ago…they give updates every so often. I was blown away when they said they are glad they bought their camper, but it’s really only useful for a weekend or so at a time because of the storage issues. Blew my mind…my husband and I have taken extended trips (up to three weeks) in ours and have absolutely LOVED it! When we first bought it, I spent a lot of time thinking about how to increase storage and make optimal use out of the storage provided. What about the rest of you A-frame owners? Clear containers and command hooks/items became my go to. I measured and bought containers that fit perfectly in our under bed storage and under our dinette seat. Our A-frame provides so much outside storage too. Makes me sad that a camper that makes driving and getting to places so much more safely is being touted that it can only be used so sparingly.
Everyone is different and have different needs.
 

Susan Premo

Super Active Member
Nov 5, 2020
1,214
Minnesota
We just got back from a state forest campground, and I've decided less is better. We seem to bring too much stuff. I have one of those big white tables, a must, a small one, hmm. Stove , I like cooking outside, a clam shelter, small one, our helinox chairs, very light, I don't decorate the inside, and use the truck bed for heavy things, I still need to rethink the food seems we bring a bit more than needed, but sometimes we stay out for a couple of months. It's still a learning process, but that's OK. Better to have too much food then not enough.
 

tfh715

Member
Apr 15, 2013
15
I'm a to each his own guy on the whole camping thing.

I've pretty much done it all and feel adventure and journey was suited for each type of camping that I've done.

I've backpacked in and hammock camped or used Lean To's as available or canoed up the lake and tent camped feeding of the land.

My Dad had a 29' Holiday Rambler in the 70's and it was true Glamping. I only spent a few nights in that before I got my own tent, but it was still my base camp with all the conveniences.

Now I have a PUP. Both bunks are King Size, there's a port john for the late night #1 (no #2 allowed inside the PUP), the usual galley kitchen that I've added storage shelves to and it has AC and Heat. We use it as a base station to sleep, wind down and then start up again.
 

Schteveo

Member
Jun 23, 2022
18
I saw a vlog by a couple that bought an A-frame camper a few years ago…they give updates every so often. I was blown away when they said they are glad they bought their camper, but it’s really only useful for a weekend or so at a time because of the storage issues. Blew my mind…my husband and I have taken extended trips (up to three weeks) in ours and have absolutely LOVED it! When we first bought it, I spent a lot of time thinking about how to increase storage and make optimal use out of the storage provided. What about the rest of you A-frame owners? Clear containers and command hooks/items became my go to. I measured and bought containers that fit perfectly in our under bed storage and under our dinette seat. Our A-frame provides so much outside storage too. Makes me sad that a camper that makes driving and getting to places so much more safely is being touted that it can only be used so sparingly.
I think this falls under the purview of 'just their opinion'.

My wife and I love camping. We just bought our first pop up.

Our younger son, an Ex-Marine as if they are ever EX, is dead set against camping. He wasn't crazy about it as a kid, like's it even less now after too many nights spent in the field as a Marine.

My mom and dad were NEVER interested in camping. Mom used to complain
when I was a Boy Scout when I came home smelling like "smoke and dirt". Mom's idea of 'roughing it' was not staying at a hotel at the beach with a restaurant DOWNSTAIRS.

I think one person's camping trip is another person's idea of hades. So might it be with the A Frame.
 

Susan Premo

Super Active Member
Nov 5, 2020
1,214
Minnesota
We have been in our house a long time, and it shows, way too much stuff, I've been trying to give a bunch of things away, only what I feel is good stuff, so I'm hoping someone out thete will enjoy those things, as we grow older we finally see the light. I had my mother's good wedding dishes, and lots of China thar young people don't seem interested in anymore, I'm sure there are some that are, so I hope they got the things that I don't need anymore. Style always changes, then like fashion comes back around again.
Anyway, I think that's why I want to minimize the camper.
 

JimPH

Member
Jul 19, 2018
25
Apple Valley, MN
I saw a vlog by a couple that bought an A-frame camper a few years ago…they give updates every so often. I was blown away when they said they are glad they bought their camper, but it’s really only useful for a weekend or so at a time because of the storage issues. Blew my mind…my husband and I have taken extended trips (up to three weeks) in ours and have absolutely LOVED it! When we first bought it, I spent a lot of time thinking about how to increase storage and make optimal use out of the storage provided. What about the rest of you A-frame owners? Clear containers and command hooks/items became my go to. I measured and bought containers that fit perfectly in our under bed storage and under our dinette seat. Our A-frame provides so much outside storage too. Makes me sad that a camper that makes driving and getting to places so much more safely is being touted that it can only be used so sparingly.
I couldn't agree more. I love my 2016 A-frame Aliner Classic - , store it in my garage and it fits, don't have to leave it outside or store it elsewhere $$$. I just got back from a month long trip in Canada; Nova Scotia , Quebec, Ontario. No storage issues at all. I pull it with my Toyota Highlander, again no issues and I only lose 1 mpg. pulling it. With my Aliner, I have traveled to the US east coast 4 times, west coast 4 times (mountains are not a pulling issue at all), and the mid-west states and Canada many many times. And we go to MN state campgrounds on Lake Superior 4 times a year. We call that area our "cabin".
We purchased our camper to travel-camp, and we really have done that. Storage is truly no issue because if we don't use it after a few times, we get rid of it. We just don't bring along unnecessary stuff. And if we do need something, I am sure they sell it in the area we are going. When I leave home I still have empty spaces to store things if needed.
I take very good care of my camper, making sure the tires are good, fix things that loosen after bouncing around on the roads, and make sure the axle is greased properly. I clean it completely after every trip and it still looks like new.
But most of all we cherish the memories of all the beautiful places we have seen in the US and Canada, and the wonderful campers we have met along the way. A smaller camper really works well for us and our long travels.
 

Rhonda.hearrell

New Member
Apr 29, 2022
4
SC
I saw a vlog by a couple that bought an A-frame camper a few years ago…they give updates every so often. I was blown away when they said they are glad they bought their camper, but it’s really only useful for a weekend or so at a time because of the storage issues. Blew my mind…my husband and I have taken extended trips (up to three weeks) in ours and have absolutely LOVED it! When we first bought it, I spent a lot of time thinking about how to increase storage and make optimal use out of the storage provided. What about the rest of you A-frame owners? Clear containers and command hooks/items became my go to. I measured and bought containers that fit perfectly in our under bed storage and under our dinette seat. Our A-frame provides so much outside storage too. Makes me sad that a camper that makes driving and getting to places so much more safely is being touted that it can only be used so sparingly.
We have a Rockwood hard side pop up and love it! We have only camped for up to three nights in it, but I would have no problem camping longer than that.
 

Sandman51

Member
Jul 7, 2021
30
Athens, GA
We now have an Aliner Scout that provides us a LOT more storage than we had with our homemade teardrop that we camped in for four to five days at a time. It's all in how you camp. If you can't camp longer than a weekend with an A-frame, then either you need a larger camper or you need to reassess your camping style.
I guess because we went from tent camping to teardrop camping to an Aliner, we still use the truck to store a good bit of gear that we need to get to quickly.
 

OR_scott

Member
Mar 20, 2021
21
I just hope someone who may have an interest in buying this type of camper doesn’t look at that vlog and assume it won’t work for them.
Maybe maybe not. There is at least one pro or con for every opinion on the internet. If they investigate well they will come to the understanding that we all have different styles and life needs. If they don’t then they win or loose. Simple as that really.
 

Lonewolf55

Going NoWhereFast
Mar 25, 2015
63
Statesville, NC
As someone who did a video on "Why you don't want to buy an ALiner", I agree. Even after a lot of modifications, I still can not find room for the washer and Dryer combo or the
BarcaLounger recliner. Fixing the turkey and stuffing dinner with all the trimings takes all day and there are bugs!! [:)C] [LOL][LOL][LOL][LOL]

I am always amazed at the things people think they need and how they "Commune" with nature. I absolutely agree that if they are happy, god bless them. From Back Packers, to 45ft Class A, everyone lives for happiness (I hope). I love my Aliner, Unfortunately I think to its death!!
 

Cydnew

Member
Jun 22, 2021
23
There is camping and then there is Glamping. It's a spectrum.
Our Pup has tons of storage for camping; our family of 4-5 can boondock for at least a week with our solar set-up. Longer if we washed or reused clothes. And we usually take a few convenience items like chairs, shade canopy, etc in the truck bed.

Sounds to me like the A-frame doesn't work for their level of glamping.
 

Anjie

Member
Nov 24, 2020
57
Troy, MO
Agree, so many reasons why they might feel differently. I too am a tidy packer, keeping things organized and in it's place. But possibly a different model? brand? of A Liner. I had a 10' 93 Coleman Popup years ago and loved it so much, it had more than enough room and storage. I sold my ole girl 7 years ago because I remarried a guy with a 30' TT and didn't think I would ever use it again. I now have a 7 year old Grand-daughter that wants to go camping all of the time and I do not like towing the TT and the hubby cannot always get away, so I picked up a 12' 97 Coleman Popup a couple years ago. It was in excellent shape, but I was shocked at how crowded it felt and the absolute lack of storage because of all of the junk they put in it. Thus, my remodel. Lots of things could be different in these things from one year, model, or brand to the next.
 

Susan Premo

Super Active Member
Nov 5, 2020
1,214
Minnesota
Agree, so many reasons why they might feel differently. I too am a tidy packer, keeping things organized and in it's place. But possibly a different model? brand? of A Liner. I had a 10' 93 Coleman Popup years ago and loved it so much, it had more than enough room and storage. I sold my ole girl 7 years ago because I remarried a guy with a 30' TT and didn't think I would ever use it again. I now have a 7 year old Grand-daughter that wants to go camping all of the time and I do not like towing the TT and the hubby cannot always get away, so I picked up a 12' 97 Coleman Popup a couple years ago. It was in excellent shape, but I was shocked at how crowded it felt and the absolute lack of storage because of all of the junk they put in it. Thus, my remodel. Lots of things could be different in these things from one year, model, or brand to the next.
I want to be a tidy packer, but I'm not the one that packs our truck, my dh does, he sees a bit of a spot that something should be able to fit into. Then try finding something! I do all the food stuff, so someone has to pack the other stuff.
 

Susan Premo

Super Active Member
Nov 5, 2020
1,214
Minnesota
My sister recently upgraded to a larger vacation home because at 3,600 sf, 5 bedrooms and 5 1/2 baths, her old one felt too crowded when she had her whole family there (6 adults, 4 children under 5). It’s all perspective.
We had a family cabin it had 2 tiny bedrooms a front porch, and when I was growing up, an outhouse. There at times, 9 of us, or 13, depending on who was there at the time. We had 2 full size beds on the porch and a daybed if my uncle came up. I miss those times, we had a living/ dining room that held a huge table. Tiny kitchen. It was great. Worked for us until we all , 6 of us, started having kids, then some would tent.
 

WimStang

Member
Jul 17, 2022
24
My wife and I are on the last legs of a 36 day trip from Georgia to Custer, Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, Rocky Mountain, etc. in a 2003 Aliner classic. We did not do laundry but did not dress fancy. Due to NP bear regulations, all cooking supplies were in trunk in bed of Ridgeline. Back seat of Ridgeline held cooler, coats, cameras etc. The camper is setup as two fulltime beds, fridge, furnace and AC. Resupplied when there was a Walmart near by. Everything worked great. We use packing cubes for clothes. I plan to hang packing cubes from a cross bar on future trips. We have done several one night stops and got basic setup/ breakdown to about 10 minutes. Towed easy, averaged 20.4 MPG (optimistic Ridgeline computer) and wife likes the bed better than at home. In my opinion, the Ridgeline was the perfect camper for this trip for our style of camping.
Came back this week from a 2 week outing, which included Wisconsin to Wyoming, and back with my Aliner Ranger 12. Only average 17.5 MPG with my Ridgeline and would love to have gotten 20. No problem towing. Boondock for 5 nights, needing heat 4 of those nights. Aliner was comfy and the only thing I added was a 3 inch topper to the so called mattress. It works easily for multiple weeks as long as you plan. I leave the bed up and store in plastic bins under the bed. Easy access and only store what is required for daily use. I do laundry every 8 days, plan for that, with a change of sheets every 3-4 days. My Aliner is a great way to camp and see the country. Devils Tower should not be missed at night. I came from big and now want the luxury that will allow me to tow easily and not take a long time to setup. I'm in my chair in 15-20 minutes and only need a bottle opener as a gadget. Happy camping.
 
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