DMV Registration

popupmom

Member
Jun 16, 2004
30
Hello all, I've got a silly question about registering your pop-up. I live in California and have owned my camper for almost 20 years. I was telling my neighbor (also a pop up owner) about the fee for my registration. She was shocked. She pays $10 for 5 years as a PTI. I pay $130 per YEAR because they have it listed on the registration as a coach trailer. I just called the DMV and they said I would need to have a VIN verification done at the DMV office or AAA. I just did a quick search on a VIN verification website and it has it listed as a camper trailer which should be considered PTI and therefore the much lower registration fee. What is your camper registered as? California may be different than other states.
 

Oldspurs

Active Member
Jan 2, 2022
303
Central Texas
Mine is listed as a Travel Trailer here in Texas. We are required to get new registration every year. Do not remember what our cost is, papers are in the TV.
 

Johneliot

Active Member
Jan 1, 2022
314
Chico, CA
I’m in California and my tent trailer has a PTI. Go to the definitions section and see if you meet the qualifications for a PTI plate.

 

msferry

Member
Jun 8, 2021
12
I have a 93 Coleman pioneer arcadia with a 10 foot box. Mine is registered with a PTI and I pay $10 every five years to register it.
 

Lug_Nut

Active Member
May 29, 2016
347
Mt. Wachusett area, MA
Looking at the site link in post #5 I see that 16 feet or less, tip of tongue to rear most extended portion, is needed to be eligible for a PTI.
"... does not exceed 16 feet in overall length from the foremost point of the trailer hitch to the rear extremity of the trailer body and 96 inches in width. Where a trailer telescopes for travel, the size shall apply to the trailer as fully extended."
Depending on the model you have the fully opened length may put you over the 16 foot limit.
 

darthRudolph

Member
Aug 8, 2022
48
IE, CA, US, Earth
Mine is PTI. But it’s old and I bought it that way.

The kicker seems to be that California considers tent trailers to not be coaches. Though the verbiage also says something like “if it telescopes for travel” they want the extended length. But it’s not extended for travel…

The upshot is take it in and have the VIN verified to be a tent trailer. Call it a tent trailer every time you refer to it. If the friendly DMV clerk doesn’t go for it, thank them for their time, and leave. Try another clerk on another day.

Or, if you do have AAA, go there, let them handle it.

Also see https://www.popupportal.com/threads/dmv-registration-body-type-pti-for-pups-in-calif.129836/
 

Grandpa Don

Super Active Member
Sep 5, 2018
1,915
Southern California
Hello all, I've got a silly question about registering your pop-up. I live in California and have owned my camper for almost 20 years. I was telling my neighbor (also a pop up owner) about the fee for my registration. She was shocked. She pays $10 for 5 years as a PTI. I pay $130 per YEAR because they have it listed on the registration as a coach trailer. I just called the DMV and they said I would need to have a VIN verification done at the DMV office or AAA. I just did a quick search on a VIN verification website and it has it listed as a camper trailer which should be considered PTI and therefore the much lower registration fee. What is your camper registered as? California may be different than other states.
I got lucky when I purchased my Viking camper in California. The previous owner had a PTI registration on it. So I also just pay $10.00 every five years. They say that the fee is just to let them now that you still have an active camper on their books.
 

Johneliot

Active Member
Jan 1, 2022
314
Chico, CA
If the box on your tent trailer is 12’ or less, I don’t think the tongue is 4’ long, so you should be OK. I would take the Vin to AAA, tell them it’s a tent trailer, tell them it’s registered incorrectly and can they make it right so it has a PTI. If they can’t do it then make an appointment at the DMV and have them correct it. Nothing to lose!
 

J Starsky

Super Active Member
Aug 3, 2017
1,427
East Central MN
In Minnesota, we have a Recreational Trailer License Plate Class. All due in February. They don't sell you a sticker that's worth a darn in the cold, BTW... You pay be the weight of vehicle, bigger units paying more in small increments. So, that's how they know to charge a bit more for my TT than the PUP. All pretty reasonable, except mid winter expiration.
 

popupmom

Member
Jun 16, 2004
30
I got lucky when I purchased my Viking camper in California. The previous owner had a PTI registration on it. So I also just pay $10.00 every five years. They say that the fee is just to let them now that you still have an active camper on their books.
Thank you. I figured we were being overcharged. I don't want to have to hook it up and haul it to the office to get the vin verified but if I have to.....I wonder if they'll return the fees that I've been overpaying.
 

popupmom

Member
Jun 16, 2004
30
Thank you. I'll be heading there next week. They shouldn't have to have the camper as long as they have the VIN number on my registration. It already shows as a camper trailer which should be a PTI. Appreciate your help.

If the box on your tent trailer is 12’ or less, I don’t think the tongue is 4’ long, so you should be OK. I would take the Vin to AAA, tell them it’s a tent trailer, tell them it’s registered incorrectly and can they make it right so it has a PTI. If they can’t do it then make an appointment at the DMV and have them correct it. Nothing to lose!
 

popupmom

Member
Jun 16, 2004
30
In Minnesota, we have a Recreational Trailer License Plate Class. All due in February. They don't sell you a sticker that's worth a darn in the cold, BTW... You pay be the weight of vehicle, bigger units paying more in small increments. So, that's how they know to charge a bit more for my TT than the PUP. All pretty reasonable, except mid winter expiration.
Thanks. I bet winter camping would be a rough one!!! I grew up in the snow but I'm a little thin blooded now after being away for over 30 years.
 

Johneliot

Active Member
Jan 1, 2022
314
Chico, CA
.....I wonder if they'll return the fees that I've been overpaying
hahaha! Good one! It’s the government, they taketh but they don’t returneth! You could ask but they’ll probably tell you you should’ve caught it sooner. But again, nothing to lose by asking.🏕
 

Grandpa Don

Super Active Member
Sep 5, 2018
1,915
Southern California
Thank you. I figured we were being overcharged. I don't want to have to hook it up and haul it to the office to get the vin verified but if I have to.....I wonder if they'll return the fees that I've been overpaying.
It's not likely you will get anything back. I think all you will have to do is take the current registration to the DMV office and not the whole camper.
 

craig heaton

Active Member
Jan 26, 2021
142
In Ohio mine is registered as a "house vehicle". Doesn't matter if it's a 44 foot TT or an 8 foot pop up, to the BMV it's all the same 🙂
 

J Starsky

Super Active Member
Aug 3, 2017
1,427
East Central MN
Thanks. I bet winter camping would be a rough one!!! I grew up in the snow but I'm a little thin blooded now after being away for over 30 years.
There's a lot of folks that do it, for sure! I don't think a PUP will open safely in this temp range, but the folks that own Ice House Campers get some use out of them!
 

MNTCamper

Super Active Member
Jun 14, 2014
1,360
MN
I just reregistered my Pup in MN also and it does have a sticker and tabs and renews each Feb as noted. I think it is $13 or $15 / year.
I do have another utility trailer 5' x 10' and as long as the GVW is under 3500 I think, it has permanent license on it and I never have to renew that - very easy.
 




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