Do most Pups have 4x4" bolt pattern?

Discussion in 'Tires / Brakes / Bearings / Axles' started by davekro, Sep 6, 2019.

  1. davekro

    davekro Member

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    Do most Pups have 4x4" bolt pattern? (mine does)
    Do diff. brands randomly vary between 4 & 5 lug patterns?
    Do smaller Pups all or mostly use 4 bolt, but when a Pup gets to 'X' GVWR, they all pretty much go to 5 lugs (higher capacity)?

    I am considering changing my 12" white steel wheels to HWT 12" aluminum wheels and want to know if we decided to upgrade say to a 12' box with a slide out down the road, what is the likelyhood I could use my 12" 4x4" wheels on the new(er) Pup? I'm guessing this larger trailer's GVWR might be 500+ lbs higher than my current Pup's 2200 GVWR. Would a higher cap. axle likely use a 5 lug pattern AND a 13" wheel?
     
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    xxxapache Well-Known Member

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    I see more 5 lug than 4, especially on bigger trailers.
     
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    My Flagstaff 625D (slideout) has 5 lug 13" wheels. I run St175/80 tires.
    The current tires are 5 years old and starting to show signs of sidewall wear even though the tread looks perfect. We just finished a 1800 mile trip without problems but I have 5 trips planned the next couple of months and they are all on 2 lane roads through the Ozarks, meaning there is no shoulder to pull over if there is a blow out. I have several sets in my Amazon cart and will decide which ones to buy over the next couple days
     
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    Raycfe Waterford Ct.

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    Usually axles with less than 3K capacity will use 4x4. 3500 pound axles usually will have 5 x 4.5 13 inch or larger rims to clear the 10 brake drums.
     
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    My itsy bitsy 2,000 lb dexter axle has 5 bolts. :)
     
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    theseus Centerville, OH

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    I think older trailers tend to have the 4 bolt pattern. Both of my pre-90s campers used 4.80x8 tires with a 4 bolt pattern. My last pup and current pup use a 5 bolt tire that is significantly larger. Wears better too.
     
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    Thanks all for the info. I think I’ll take Sjm’s advice and run these for a season and think about the decision to replace tire and rims next season. Good to know a 4 bolt wheel purchase now would likely not be transferable if we decided to upgrade to a larger pup next season and wanted to swap the wheel investment.
     
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    Another option may be to replace the hubs if that would be cheaper than replacing the wheels. I.e. you could swap the hubs on your current pup to one with 5 lugs then future proof your wheels.
     
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    I never thought of this possibility. Thanks for the idea. I probably will still hold off until next season, but good to know if my OCD wins out, I have this option. I found a few links for anyone curious of how this would work, as I was.
    Change hubs from 4 to 5 lug, YouTube!

    Amazon 5 bolt hub kits ≈ $60
    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=5+bolt+t...322240&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_3az226f0rb_e
    Amazon 5 bolt hub kits w/ new electric brakes ≈ $140
    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=5+bolt+trailer+hub+and+electric+brake+kit&ref=nb_sb_noss

    Big thanks for the idea Rusty.
     
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