Don't hesitate to call an ambulance...

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  1. Blkymom

    Blkymom New Member

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    This year we've had a bit of a bump, well, more of a large bump, to contend with. My mom's sister passed away suddenly Aug 11/08, then my dad went into the hospital Aug 22/08 (he's still there) and my DH had a heart attack Sept 3/08. Thank goodness my DH and my dad are still with us.

    My aunt had just given up and my mom went to visit, called the ambulance and she was gone 4 days later. A blessing really, I keep telling mom she gave her sister the best she could, a peaceful and pain-free end to a difficult life.

    My mom called the ambulance for dad against his insistence that he would be fine. He's not fine, he's still in the hospital and probably won't be out for a while. And when his is, he won't be going home, he'll be going into full-time care.

    I almost lost my dad and my DH within days of each other; DH's heart attack and when he's released 4 days later, my dad stops breathing in hospital and ends up in ICU for a week.

    The doctor keeps telling us that had I not called for the ambulance, DH would have been dead by morning. Pretty blunt, right? I think that's her point. It doesn't hit home any harder than that.

    Don't hesitate to call...we got him to hospital soon enough that there was no permanent damage to his heart.

    I am grateful that I still have my DH, he is my rock through all of this with my dad. And I am grateful that this didn`t happen during our holidays this past summer...we probably won`t have been as lucky had it happened then, care would have been much farther away.

    Thanks for listening.

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  2. deedee300

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    I'm not sure why people want to delay/avoid going to the doctor or hospital...maybe they are afraid to have their worst thoughts confirmed. A very good point made by your doctor. My parents are getting up there and I can just hear my Dad resisting. I'm glad your Dad and DH are still around.

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    ninches New Member

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    As an EMT, I know that people often feel like they are bothering us.. I always let people know that I would rather be called for nothing than not called for something...Any time you think that maybe you should call the ambulance, you probably should.

    Edited by - ninches on November 16 2008 13:36:15
     
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    I'm also an EMT and I agree with Ninches.

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    The last time I took a CPR class, the instructor said that women were more likely to avoid calling an ambulance when they have a heart attack. A lot of people only think about men having heart attacks. When it happens to a woman, they think it must be something else and they don't call an ambulance. Better safe than sorry...

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  6. ILUVTHEBEACH

    ILUVTHEBEACH Suburbs of Philly, PA

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    <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana,Arial,Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> I'm not sure why people want to delay/avoid going to the doctor or hospital... <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana,Arial,Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

    I have been guilty of that once and it almost could have cost me my life. A few years ago, I thought I had a stomach bug and stayed home from work. I had been vomiting since about 3:00 am the night before so I decided I should stay home so I wouldn't give it anyone. I had a bad pain in my stomach and couldn't stand up but I thought it was the bug. During the course of the day my stomach was nauseaous and the pain kept getting worse. I just thought it was the bug. My husband came home and I was in bed so he thought I was ok. A few hours later I came downstairs and at this point the pain was so bad I couldn't stand up straight. I was hunched over and walking. My husband immediately said something was wrong and we should go to the hospital. I refused. I said it was just a bug. He made my son go online to look up the symptoms of appendisitis. Each time my son read a symptom, I said I had it. Well we rushed to the hospital and the ER doctor saw me walking in all hunched over and said I know what is wrong with her, call the on call surgeon. He hadn't even talked to me. Needless to say, I had acute appendisitis and had emergency surgery. The surgeon told me the next day that if I had waited any longer my appendix would have burst and I would have been in BIG trouble.

    So the morale of my rambling..... Please even if you think it is ok, just go get it checked out. Most things are treatable and can save your life if it turns out to be something bad.

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  7. hvac1877

    hvac1877 Old Dominion Iron Chefs Highland Springs, Va

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    My wife and i took my father in law out to get a new suit for my sister-in-law father in law funeral. We walked around for a few hours and took him home with his new suit. The wife and i were getting ready for bed when my mother-in-law called saying my father-in-law was shaking bad and felt really bad to come get him and take him to the hospital. So the wife called 911 for him and met him at his house.They got him to the hospital and checked him out. He had a bad infection on his foot and walking on it got it into his blood stream and started to shut his systems down. He spent a few days in the hospital but he is here. We almost had to go to two funerals. So if in doubt call it could save your or someones life.

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    Last Thanksgiving we had my family over for dinner my father in law mother in law and brother in law. Were all chowing down when I look across the table at my MIL and she's blue. I run around the table and ask her if she's OK she cant speak and cant breath at all. I tell my wife to call 911 and turn her around to Heimlich her she passed out and finally got the darn thing out of her windpipe. She woke up to me blowing in her mouth as the EMTs were pulling up. The EMT said "what are you after my job" we all bust out laughing. they took her in anyway she was OK but I broke her rib. We still laugh that it was the first time in history a Son in law saved his mother in law. In my case the ambulance was my back up and I was so glad I took that red cross training a few years back.

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    I did not fair so well on 2002, my dad passed away unexpectedly in Jan, he was in long term care. In Nov the same year I was visiting my mom and she wasn't looking too well. I kept asking her what was wrong and she said she hadn't felt very well for a couple of days, we were sitting at the kitchen table talk and her eyes suddenly rolled back while in mid sentence and I caught her before she fell out the chair. I out her on the floor and noticed she was not breathing and I had to commence CPR while I told my wife to call 911. After she called, the next thing I knew she counted and bumped me out and continued CPR....I then realized my wife is a Nurse.....She then started barking orders at me instinctively. Unfortunately we were only able to keep her alive until the following day, just long anough for all my relatives to say their good byes. She had a massive heart attack but I can't help wondering if my mom had called an ambulance when she first felt ill.

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  10. Leyster

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    I believe elderly people and especially elderly women are more unlikely to not call for help. My MiL is 90 and I have talked to her about her medical care and such, during her bad days she is scared to call for help in case she doesn't come home. She would rather die at home than at the hospital. But saying that I also believe if something starts to happen one of us will call 911 and get her help better to have her scared and alive than scared and .....We have called 911 and when help has come it has been our overreacting and the paramedics are so understanding and helpful with calming our fears.
    They are very special people that I(we) can never thank enough.

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    My mother drove my father to the hospital a year ago when he complained pain in his left arm, congestion, and just a general feeling of being unwell. When they walked into the ER, he was whisked right in and hooked up to the monitors (for all the complaints about long wait times in our hospital ERs, the triage nurses do really know when it is urgent). It turned out that he had actually pulled a muscle in his arm and had a cold.

    This summer, same symptoms, mother drives him to ER again and he is whisked in. This time, it was a heart attack. He was very fortunate that there was no real damage. When we visited him, I said to him that them both that they are to call the ambulance next time, not drive him there, because the paramedics can monitor the situation. Both of them said that they hadn't even thought to call 911!

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  12. Blkymom

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    What we have learned through cardiac rehab is:

    1. the pain can be anywhere...not just the left arm, etc. Especially in women, it can be flu like symptoms, chest, arm, back...

    <font color=blue>(with DH it started in his shoulder, then into his collarbone area, then his arm) another guy in rehab said he has acid reflux...thought he was having an attack, his meds didn't help...he waited 8+ hours then he had a full blown heart attack, almost didn't make it. DH learned in rehab that a lot of people with acid reflux that have heart attacks, never have acid reflux again after a blockage is cleared. Makes you think.</font id=blue>

    2. the ONLY way to tell for certain that a heart attack is happening is a blood test. ECG or EKG (sorry don't remember what's correct) only shows problems when there is actual damage to the heart muscle...by then it could be too late.

    (<font color=blue>DH's ECG/EKG showed no signs, the EMTs took him to the hospital to make sure...blood test showed heart attack...he received his angiogram a few days later, stent put in. The angiogram showed a 80% blockage and a large clot they had to push through to open the artery.</font id=blue>

    3. generally what symptoms you had the first time will be the same for repeat attacks. If you had pain in your back, it will be the exact same pain for future events.

    <font color=blue>(we can look back at bit and see that DH had a similar discomfort about a month before but it went away in seconds and didn't reappear until he had his heart attack)</font id=blue>

    <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana,Arial,Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> call the ambulance next time, not drive him there, because the paramedics can monitor the situation <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana,Arial,Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

    Absolutely! They can give meds too and get you there much, much faster! They even said that some people even drive themselves to the hospital...unbelievable.

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    My father's one actually started with the "acid reflux". He was on a business trip and thought that it was reflux because it got better when he sat up and worse when he laid down (figured that anything that got better could not be the heart). He felt nauseous the next day and flew home, then felt fine the following day and went to work. Felt fine again the next day at work until he got home and went to mow the lawn. Then he got really short of breath and said that he needed to go to the hospital.

    We, and he, were very lucky that he had such a mild attack. He had the angioplasty and is now a model post-op patient. He has changed his diet, excercises regularly, and has lost weight. He will be officially discharged from the six month post-op program this week.

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    My father's one actually started with the "acid reflux". He was on a business trip and thought that it was reflux because it got better when he sat up and worse when he laid down (figured that anything that got better could not be the heart). He felt nauseous the next day and flew home, then felt fine the following day and went to work. Felt fine again the next day at work until he got home and went to mow the lawn. Then he got really short of breath and said that he needed to go to the hospital.

    We, and he, were very lucky that he had such a mild attack. He had the angioplasty and is now a model post-op patient. He has changed his diet, excercises regularly, and has lost weight. He will be officially discharged from the six month post-op program this week.

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    Glad to hear that worked out well for your father and that he's made the changes. There are a few people in cardio rehab that are fighting the changes, but I think it has a lot to do with educating people about why they need to change and the results if they don't.

    DH has lost over 20 lbs since his release, diet change (although it wasn't horrible to begin with...mainly portion sizes) and exercise, well that is coming slowly.

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    OK, here's the deal. I've been a paramedic for close to 15 years.

    Elderly people and males are the worse for not calling us. Pride and the thought of "bothering" us is the two biggest reasons. STOP IT. Call us.

    There are two major reasons for calling.

    1. It's your life. Do you really want to play Russian roulette with it?

    2. I would rather have you walking and talking. If you wait too long and stroke out or code. I have to play "guess what happened/find the meds/get medical history" and have to do more work. We medics are like every other working slob in the world. Do everything you have to do, but the least amount of work is always better.

    For example, I would rather do a 3 and 12 lead ECG, start a line in you and give you some nitro, ASA and morphine to get rid of the chest pain; then having to start a line, intubate, push atropine, epi and lidocane while doing CPR and giving shocks with the defib.

    Unless you are drunk and start a bar fight at 3 AM, it's not a bother. We're open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. We even open Christmas Day.

    "Sick people keep me in a job, stupid people keep me busy"

    So don't do stupid things like drinking and driving, start bar fights or wait too long when your sick.
     
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    after two weeks ago and then seeing this post I felt compelled to respond. A nurse that works in the dr.s office with my mother was feeling tired. said she had not slept well and had slept wrong because her shoulder and neck were a little sore. She left about an hour early to go home. Her husband said she got home sat in recliner and said that she was going to watch a little tv and go to bed. (he worked nights and left a few minutes later thinking she was just tired) Later that evening her daughter came by and found her. She had passed away from a heart attack sitting in the recliner. SHE WAS ONLY 49!

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    DH had episodes of tiredness and sweating one summer, but said there was no pain---then felt too ill to go to work one morning. I called 911. He had apparently had several small heart attacks. They monitored him in ICU for a couple of days, then transferred him to a regular room on Friday, anticipating further tests on Monday. On Friday evening just before DS and I were to leave, he had another attack. After lots of feverish activity and an emergency cardiac catheterization he had triple bypass on Friday night. It was a VERY LONG DAY!! But he's still around and fairly active after 12 years. He also quit smoking while in the hospital, and has not resumed. He doesn't like doctors or hospitals, but he's been pretty good at staying with the program. A friend through Boy Scouts was the first responder, and others we knew were on the ambulance crew. I will be eternally grateful for all they did to help make this a positive outcome.

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