Haha, so we got a 2005 Viking Epic 2308 and enjoyed it for the one trip we got to take before the holidays set in. (Would have taken it out more but don't have bunk end covers or liners yet and the temps were in the teens and 20's) But I'm realizing now we really would like a slide out because we were tripping over our 2 and 4 year old in the narrow space between the galley and the dinette. We got it for a pretty good price so I'm thinking perhaps we can sell it for the same if not a tiny profit. But I'm afraid to sell it before having another trailer in hand. In doing more searching, I really like the Fleetwood Utah layout. I like that it has the slideout dinette to give more floor space and the slide out gaucho so that we can have a bed for the 2 year old set up 24/7 but also have the table set up 24/7. Yes, I realize my small kids could share the king sized bunk end...but my toddler won't sleep if her brother is nearby. Something about her having a separate bed in the trailer helped her go to sleep better. The Bayside is really similar except it has more cabinet/counter space and the sofa doesn't appear wide enough for a bed. I liked in our Viking how I had all that counter space to set plastic drawers so I know I'd be giving that up in the Utah. Has anyone regretted giving it up? The weight difference between the Bayside and Utah seems negligible (200 pounds). I thought I saw one E3 that had a slide out gaucho instead of counter space. Can anyone confirm this? Our Viking epic is only 1800 pounds though. How obvious is the difference in towing an extra 1000 pounds? Our 4th gen 4Runner Ltd has a towing capacity of 7000...we don't want to get close to that because I'm not sure what our stopping power is. My guess is we'd need to install a break controller for the larger trailers. Our TV already comes with the harness, just need to purchase the controller. Are there any other brands with very similar floor plans? We are towing with a V8 4Runner and with our Viking we didn't even experience any drop in gas mileage. I seriously forgot I was towing the thing. Granted, I only pulled it mostly along the freeway and not up any hills. I'm trying to find a local one of each of these floorplans in any condition so that we can at least get a feel for them. And I've been searching this site to try to find user experiences. Edited: forgot to mention, we didn't think we'd eat inside our trailer until we went cold weather camping. And when the sun went down, it got coooold. So it was nice to eat our sandwiches inside at the table. And we hope to do quite a bit of cold weather camping. Hence the need to leave a table up instead of constantly converting between a bed and a table.