Thank you / another one goes dark: I joined this site immediately after buying our first camper - a Jayco 1207UD popup - in 2016. I learned so much from you guys: how it works, how to winterize, tips and tricks, hacks, mods and horror stories. I enjoyed my time here and am grateful for everything I gained/discussed. I stopped hanging out on the site a while back because of the forum format change and not having anything of value to provide, but we never stopped camping. We had three truly great summers and made outstanding memories thanks solely to our PUP. My wife and I scheduled the fewest camping trips for our family this year primarily because the PUP. The set up and unpacking process really wore us down. We figure it's roughly two hours between backing into a site and actually camping. The reverse process to pack and close up is another hour, so just taking our PUP out to a campsite cuts into our camping trip by half a day. That was really the reason we started looking at TTs. As we thought about it more and more, our PUP also had drawbacks we couldn't fix. We never installed A/C, so it was impossible to nap or be inside it during the day. There really wasn't any floor or table space, so it was a tango for a family (of four, with two kids now ages 8 and 6) to make/drink coffee, eat breakfast, get ready for the day and change into/out of swimwear. Its small size made it absolutely brutal to hang out inside on a rainy day with so little space between us. While it's great to sleep in the beds on cool, quiet nights... most nights aren't that way. It's actually really hard to sleep in the PUP. The whole thing rocks and rolls when anyone rolls over in bed or gets up to pee. Warm/stuffy nights are tough on our allergies and our sleep. There is just no relief from sweating while laying in bed. Raindrops on the roof and Duratek are super noisy (constant tink tink tink). We seemed to get unlucky by having obnoxious neighbors who stay up getting drunk and laughing around a campfire until midnight every night. The tent doesn't insulate you from any of that noise. I used to think we'd be the last family in the world to ever trade our PUP for a TT. But when you experience the PUP and become intimately familiar with the pros/cons, a TT is actually a huge difference. The PUP was a great camper and I'll miss a lot of things: bed size, towability, storability, being connected to nature and the memories we made. It's hard to get too sad though knowing what the benefits of our TT will bring us. Our own beds. A/C. A bathroom. A kitchen. It's really not that much more space, but enough to put a TV on the counter and hunker down during a rainy day. At the dealership last weekend, one line I used from this site helped convince my wife to upgrade: "if we go to the dark side, we can have ice cream." Sold! 2020 Jayco 184BS.