So we are still starting out with our NTU PUP. 91 Coleman Columbia which is a very tight squeeze for a family of 4 but hey gets the job done. My wife still only likes to go to regional parks in the So Cal area because she is worried if we venture out to a rural campground the bathrooms won't be clean. So either way we get out and I'll take it. Funny thing is my 5 year old son would rather sit in the PUP all day and play then do outside stuff like ride bikes and build campfires. We did end up at a water play area and rode the bikes a few times over the weekend so in all was a great time. Next trip I may just force a site in the mountains and hope for the best.