Harvest Host doesn't allow PopUps

mowmow

Member
Sep 2, 2020
21
Got an offer for 15% off Harvest Host but discovered they don't allow tent trailers, pop-ups. Even if you're self contained.
I guess they are a bunch of snobs.
 

generok

Super Active Member
Gold Supporting Member
Feb 7, 2013
3,402
Anchorage, AK
I think it does have a lot to do with the self contained factor. Many PUPs are only partially self contained, so they just don't want the confusion factor, I suppose. I don't think it has much to do with the rig itself, unless they also have the "no rigs older than 10 years" rule, then there is a degree of snobbery.
 

mowmow

Member
Sep 2, 2020
21
We have seen that a couple of times at some campgrounds. Fortunately Texas state parks don't discriminate that way though at Caprock Canyon a couple of weeks ago I might have wanted something more rigid :D

They were like this nearly the whole time we were there! Walking to the bathroom?! Forget about it.... View attachment 77330
You're quite safe from them as long as you stay inside and don't irritate them. We camped in big tents in the Serengeti that weren't any thicker than my PUP. There were hyenas outside every night "oooh-eeee". You are cautioned to not leave your shoes out because they will chew them up and steal them. The baboons were the worst, they came up on the porch and tried to get in the door and made a huge racket. There was a leopard that harassed the cook in the dining tent. We could hear the lions roaring, the elephants stamping around. The men took off to scare the elephants away from a nearby village and we were told to stay in our tents no matter what. The wildebeest will go around the tents even if they start to stampede. Apparently they view them as a big rock. Same for the safari cars, the lions could easily jump right into them but they don't. But if you get out... you're lunch.
 

mowmow

Member
Sep 2, 2020
21
It'd be easy enough for them to specify self-contained with water, toilet, own black/gray tanks, no need for electricity. They do actually say that, then also say no pop-ups or fold outs. But then they allow teardrops which have NOTHING unless you pack in water and a porta-potty, and where on earth would you even put the porta potty, balance it on your bed??
It's snobbery, plus maybe trying to limit families with children.
 

firepit

Super Active Member
Feb 26, 2020
2,697
I think it does have a lot to do with the self contained factor. Many PUPs are only partially self contained, so they just don't want the confusion factor, I suppose. I don't think it has much to do with the rig itself, unless they also have the "no rigs older than 10 years" rule, then there is a degree of snobbery.
Agree...i had to call the head of game and parks during covid when the bathrooms were shut down and explain that while my porta potty wasnt built into my camper but it took chemicals and dumped like everyone elses.
He himself said they were trying to avoid people poopin in a bag and filling dumpsters with bags of poop.
He gave me the all clear and his number if anyone gave me a hard time.
As far as dangerous animals i can see the no pop up rule.
Camping snobbery is so dumb.
But it exsists in some places.
 

popup-flyer

Active Member
May 11, 2021
323
Central Texas
You're quite safe from them as long as you stay inside and don't irritate them. We camped in big tents in the Serengeti that weren't any thicker than my PUP. There were hyenas outside every night "oooh-eeee". You are cautioned to not leave your shoes out because they will chew them up and steal them. The baboons were the worst, they came up on the porch and tried to get in the door and made a huge racket. There was a leopard that harassed the cook in the dining tent. We could hear the lions roaring, the elephants stamping around. The men took off to scare the elephants away from a nearby village and we were told to stay in our tents no matter what. The wildebeest will go around the tents even if they start to stampede. Apparently they view them as a big rock. Same for the safari cars, the lions could easily jump right into them but they don't. But if you get out... you're lunch.
Oh I wasn't really afraid of them but a little troubled when they would rub up on the posts for our covered picnic table and wooden signpost for our site. Didn't want them rubbing on us. There were also two males constantly bouncing off each other around everyone and I could see that going south quickly.

No matter what anyone says or thinks you can not ever trust an animal to behave rationally all the time and just assume/believe no one will ever be hurt by one. Just ask Sigfried and Roy ;)
 

DiamondGirl

Adventures with KODI in AZ
Jul 2, 2016
1,335
AZ
@mowmow. Wow… Interesting experiences in the Serengeti. And here I stayed inside my Aliner each night while skunks came around foraging for food and water at my campsite at the Kartchner campground. I feel so silly now. LOL.

Happy Camping…[put&hy]
 

xxxapache

Super Active Member
Jul 30, 2008
4,391
I was wondering about unhitching and looked last night. No rule against it. I saw pics of campers unhitched....It might make leveling for a fridge tough if you had to unhitch.
 

campfire Joe

Active Member
Jan 27, 2015
349
peru new york
You're quite safe from them as long as you stay inside and don't irritate them. We camped in big tents in the Serengeti that weren't any thicker than my PUP. There were hyenas outside every night "oooh-eeee". You are cautioned to not leave your shoes out because they will chew them up and steal them. The baboons were the worst, they came up on the porch and tried to get in the door and made a huge racket. There was a leopard that harassed the cook in the dining tent. We could hear the lions roaring, the elephants stamping around. The men took off to scare the elephants away from a nearby village and we were told to stay in our tents no matter what. The wildebeest will go around the tents even if they start to stampede. Apparently they view them as a big rock. Same for the safari cars, the lions could easily jump right into them but they don't. But if you get out... you're lunch.
I think that's a little more wildlife then i'd like to be around! Think i'd go someplace else or get better living quarters!
 

Chris I

Member
Sep 2, 2020
85
Portland, OR
It sounds like A-frame campers would be allowed, because they have 4 rigid sides? Seems like an issue with wildlife/livestock, and soft-sided campers?

We do allow hybrid (expandable) travel trailers where only the bed areas pop out, but the rest of the trailer is composed of four rigid sides. We allow camper vans where the bed area at the top of the van pops up (but again, the rest of the van has four rigid sides). We allow clamshell and teardrop trailers, but their outdoor cooking facilities may not be used while on Host properties (see below).
 

Old_Geezer

Super Active Member
Sep 29, 2009
2,760
Southwest PA
Seems like an issue with wildlife/livestock, and soft-sided campers?

Are they parking folks in the middle of the cow pasture or field full of goats LOL? I wouldnt worry about the cows, but those pesky goats might chow down on your tent fabric. I have seen one eat half of a Coors can once followed by a few cigarette butts.


Got an offer for 15% off Harvest Host but discovered they don't allow tent trailers, pop-ups. Even if you're self contained.
I guess they are a bunch of snobs.

For about the last year and a half there is a never ending supply of snobs in campgrounds from what I have observed.
 

mandinga

Active Member
Mar 4, 2014
197
Ottawa, ontario
Harvest Host is aimed at overnight parking, not actual camping. So I don't think the prohibition on canvas is intentionally snobbish. Am actually surprised they do not specifically prohibit unhitching your towable.

This!

On average, a travel trailer has less stuff and clutter to setup for a quick stop. Yes there are exceptions, but at a TT will have a bathroom, and are less needy. The people hosting don't make much money for the stay, so the idea is to be minimalist. Drive in drive out. I'm sure there are a lot of tenters who will argue they can also be self contained aswell. They had to draw the line somewhere, and they did.

I have never used the service. But we have considered it for future trips with our TT. Pop-ups are made for camping, more so than traveling. Heck many manufacturers categorize them as "campers", and hard sided trailers as "travel trailers"
 

Econ

Super Active Member
Aug 18, 2019
1,518
Deep South
It sounds like A-frame campers would be allowed, because they have 4 rigid sides?

Harvest Host is a marketing operation. Hosts are running a business of some sorts. I SPECULATE HH keeps the membership fee and the host makes a profit off what they sell you. The host might have limited parking. The Host is not interested in people who historically dont buy much. They would prefer a parking lot full of Class A's. There is probably marketing data as to what type camper is the bottom rung and arent very profitable.
 

nhcaveman

Barrington, NH
Mar 25, 2009
1,333
New Hampshire
I was supposed to do a Harvest Host stay tonight, but our friends got flooded last night in the campground we were at last weekend, they stayed all week, and now cannot get their rig out due to flooding. They have HH, I do not. But I called the place they made a reservation to see if we could come as well, no problem but we would be subject to the same conditions as our friends with HH would be, spend money while at the venue. No problem as we're their customer anyways.

I don't know if there are any popups with fresh, grey, and black tanks, sounds like a lot of weight for a popup. I think the concept of a popup with a shower and toilet is strictly for full hookup use. But I don't know that for certain either. I do understand the reasoning that they want to be assured that nobody is dumping grey water or using their facility as an outdoor bathroom.
 




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