help with broken lift

[azwildcat]

had the popup out last weekend and every thing worked, pop up both up and down, yesterday went to raise the roof and it just spins the crank, i have a 2005 fleetwood bayliner, i watched some youtube videos and seams the problem is ratchet
or spring behind the rear panel, in order to get the back panel off i need to raise the roof about a foot to drill out rivets that are on top and remove bolts on bottom, question is how to raise the roof to do this, i could not find anything online to do this, could i get four people and just lift up all 4 corners

 

[Raycfe]

You could remove the whiffletree cover try to turn the whiffletree with channel locks and you can inspect the pins that hold the whiffletree together at the same time.

 

[ADK_ Adventures]

could i get four people and just lift up all 4 corners

I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure you can. I can’t imagine you’d hurt anything if you try this, just obviously don’t force anything. I think it’s also possible for one person to lift one corner slightly, prop it up with something, repeat with the other three corners, and eventually work all four up to the height you need. Again, just don’t force anything, and I think you’ll be safe.

Good luck!

-Amos

 

[azwildcat]

my son and i tryed to lift up on the the back corners of the roof and it didn't seem to budge, so i guess the next thing is to pull the whiffletree cover and try that, thanks

 

[azwildcat]

fixed, took off the whiffletree cover and inspected and found nothing wrong, next took off cover for lower sprocket and roll pin fell out, spread out roll pin for tighter fit, lube up whiffletree gear and put covers back on, works like a charm, now to plan next trip

 

[BlackJackAlley]

I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure you can. I can’t imagine you’d hurt anything if you try this, just obviously don’t force anything. I think it’s also possible for one person to lift one corner slightly, prop it up with something, repeat with the other three corners, and eventually work all four up to the height you need. Again, just don’t force anything, and I think you’ll be safe.

Good luck!

-Amos

Here's an excellent video I used to rebuild my upper lift system:

Coleman Rebuild Kit - Upper Crank Assembly Coleman Rebuild Kit - Upper Crank Assembly [PA-CNRUREBUILD] - $125.00 : Pop-Up Parts, The Folding Trailer specialist

Upper Crank Assembly Rebuild Kit for Coleman Campers. 1) DRIVE SHAFT ( 3 5/8 " ) 1) PRESSURE WASHER 2) SHAFT BUSHINGS ( NOTE # 1 & # 7 IN DIAGRAM ) 1) NYLON WASHER & 1 WASHER 1) HEX HEAD NUT COURSE THREAD 2) ROLL PINS 1) DRIVE HUB 3 3/8 1) RATCHET WHEEL 1) PRESSURE PLATE 1) PRESSURE...

www.popupparts.com

The parts were back ordered. (supply chain) Everything went together well. I did have to file the center weld in the tube in order for parts to fit smoothly. Everything works well now.

 

[Oldspurs]

Glad you got it fixed without to much anxiety. Always a great feeling to get problems solved with some elbow grease. Enjoy the camp. See you on the trail.

 

[stierheim]

I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure you can. I can’t imagine you’d hurt anything if you try this, just obviously don’t force anything. I think it’s also possible for one person to lift one corner slightly, prop it up with something, repeat with the other three corners, and eventually work all four up to the height you need. Again, just don’t force anything, and I think you’ll be safe.

Good luck!

-Amos

Yes, you can lift the roof by manualy lifting the 4 corners, but you have to be very careful to not damage the lift cables. When the roof is manually lifted, the lift cables will go slack and they can get caught on interference items and fall out of the pulley groove on one or more pulleys. When you then try to lower the roof manually (or turn the crank to remove the lift cable slack, it can severely damage the lift cables if you're not making sure the lift cables are clear of interference and correctly on the pulleys.

 

[Grandpa Don]

fixed, took off the whiffletree cover and inspected and found nothing wrong, next took off cover for lower sprocket and roll pin fell out, spread out roll pin for tighter fit, lube up whiffletree gear and put covers back on, works like a charm, now to plan next trip

Sounds good! I don't have a Whiffletree system, but I've heard that there is a friction clutch affair in there somewhere that can get contaminaded with too much lube. I think if that happens, the top won't stay up. I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere.