Kayak hauling?

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  1. Boomy

    Boomy New Member

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    I kayak fish offshore and both my tow vehicles have racks on them, but I'd like to drop them out of the wind. Looking for ideas of how you guys carry yours?


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    jmkay1 2004 Fleetwood/Coleman Utah

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    I once hauled my kayak on the pup by using the foam blocks and using ratchet straps to strap it down. My problem was I was afraid I was going to tighten things down too much and bend the roof so played things very cautious I also didn't like the placement of the bowline strap. To top it off, the site I went to I had to drive to the dock, so ultimately found myself hooking the kayak back onto the car anyway. I don't dare screw anything on my roof of the pop-up so foam blocks was my only option. It is doable, but for my setup I didn't trust it as much as I do on my car, and found the on/off much more of a bigger pain.
     
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    We carry ours on the top of the pup using the foam car kits, front straps to the tongue, rear straps to the bumper, and one center strap over both of them hooked to the frame on both sides.
     
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    We used a bent extra thick pool noodle for my daughters yak this summer...... thinking of mounting a drop in rack in the front and maybe a pad on the roof so only half the weight is on the roof.

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    Eyeballing it, your kayak may be too long for using your pup as a trailer to haul it. You want the kayak centered on the pup. You also want at least a foot or 18" of clearance between the front of the kayak and the back of your car. Otherwise you crunch the front of the boat when making a tight turn.
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    12' box + 4' tounge
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    14' kayak. ....
    When I trailer it is generally on a 6' trailer......

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  8. BelchFire

    BelchFire I speak fluent vise-grip

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    I have a Yakima rack on my cab as well as a home made Yakima knockoff on the (factory) rails of the p'up. I put two 'yaks on the truck and two 'yaks on the p'up and I secure all the 'yaks to the rails rather than the body of the truck or p'up.
     
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    I used 2 foam blocks with a ratchet strap over the top and bow/stern lines to the pup frame. Looked around at a lot of different roof racks for the pup, but couldn't bring myself to drilling holes in the roof.

    Went on a two week East Coast trip and the ratchet strap never stayed tight and always worked itself loose. I think it is a combination of the slickness of the polyethylene, the curvature of the yak, and the fact it was offset due to my AC unit. Never had any issues or concerns though, since most of the holding power is in the bow/stern lines and the ratchet strap was just a 'safety'.

    My 14' yak was just a bit longer than the pup box so there were no clearance issues with the TV.
     
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    RFryer Hopkinton, MA

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    In my experience the kayaks are aerodynamic enough that they don't really affect my gas mileage, unlike my bikes on top of the car.
     
  11. NothingsChocking

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    One thing to remember is pop ups have a roof weight limit; so, when you use the noodle or the foam block method, the ratchet strap itself adds "weight" or clamping pressure that far exceeds the initial weight of the kayak. I believe traditional pop-ups are a little bit more forgiving to this, but A-frame hardsiders are even more prone to damage by this method. Perhaps consider a roof rack that spans from top side of roof (frame to frame). Next, strap the kayaks to the rack with straps. Straps create a lot of clamping force so let the racks absorb it. Then, the only force transferred to the unit is the weight of the kayak and rack. Holes are never drilled in the roof proper where water pools. Prorack makes a good fitting rack for mine and several other styles both for traditional and hardside pop-up. A good picture of what these look like can be seen on photos for new Rockwood ESPs (Extreme Sports Package). Mine is not an ESP but they work the same none-the-less.
     
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    BelchFire I speak fluent vise-grip

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    This is exactly why I strap my kayaks directly to a rack rather than strap them to the frame.
     
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    This is our method when going to the lake. Hope it helps.

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    nhcaveman Barrington, NH

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    I have Yakima racks on the truck and do the same when kayaking locally.
    However if traveling any distance I will secure with bow and stern lines to the front and rear bumpers.
    I know several Kayakers who would object to not using the added lines every times as racks can and do break, come free from the vehicle, etc. so they'd be right to do so.
    Currently all my boats are poly boats so I'm not too concerned, if I were to buy another composite boat I'd want to make sure it was properly secured every time.
    Also I remove my Yakima racks for winter as suggested by the Yakima Rep when I bought them. I also grab hold of them and shake the truck back and forth, side to side every time I put a kayak up there to be sure they're secure.


    I have traveled with a kayak on top of the popup with the pool noodle method, but wasn't very comfortable doing so, and likely won't again. There were no issues to speak of, I just don't like the thought of damaging my roof.
     
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    BelchFire I speak fluent vise-grip

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    I always secure the bow and stern with straps as well, I just don't put a tight load on those lines so I don't 1) put undue stress on the poly kayak (think bending in the So. GA heat) and 2) put undue stress on my roof. I even do this when towing locally. Mostly to prevent porpoising or buffeting in the wind.

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    Is that a 228d?
     
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    33D9AA23-A406-48F5-BC70-B532E0B69C4A.png Thinking about switching back to a folding canoe/kayak made by pakboats.com. Used to have a Feathercraft K-1 and used on 2 sea kayak expeditions in Alaska. Moved back to hard shells but too heavy to roof top with my Old Town Discovery 169 (100 pounds). The folding canoe or kayak is half that weight and can fold up into a carry bag.
     
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    tenttrailer Art & Joyce - Columbus, O

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    we carry them on the TV roof on racks. (10 and 12'). At highway speeds we take a 2-3 mpg hit. Keep playing with how I position them. Skirt on or off, etc.... i'm thinking the skirts are good. The best was a stacker rack, putting the yaks on the side and strapping them together making the as one, cockpit to cockpit. Much better on the MPG, but what a PIA to put them up on the roof.
     
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    This is how we haul our kayaks.
     

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