New tow vehicle ...

Discussion in 'Tow Vehicles, Hitch & Towing' started by D-mo, Feb 6, 2009.

  1. D-mo

    D-mo New Member

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    Well, my trusty AWD Astro is starting to cost me a little much in silly little repairs, so im thinking of a new hauler. Nothing large, not a SUV, we're leaning towards a truck. My PUP wieghs about 2650 dry, and we do haul a fair amount of stuff on extended stays. Thoughts? ..

    Right now Im looking at a Nissan Frontier 4WD Se.

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  2. my3kids

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    I looked at a 08 Frontier. Great motor, not a bad choice, cheaper than the equivalent Toyota Tacoma. At the time the price math didn't work out so when gas was nearing $5 bucks we traded in our tired 2001 Volvo S80 for a well conditioned 2006 Toyota Tundra doublecab. The dealer couldn't wait to get rid of it because no one wanted a V8. They wanted almost $4K more for the equivalent V6 Tacomas. We got a sweet deal on the Tundra. My 2 cents, also do the price math on a used V6 and especially a V8. New and used dealers are more than happy to unload a V8 to you. In our case we don't drive much at all so V8 gas mileage is mostly noise. Good luck.

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    Friend of mine has a Fronteir 4X4. Loves the truck, will climb a verticle wall or any thing else in its path, but drinks gas like crazy.

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    We have a Nissan Xterra 4X4. It is the best vehicle, and tows like a dream!

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  5. nuthouseinva

    nuthouseinva Portsmouth, Virginia

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    I just recently purchased a used 2006 Nissan Frontier Crewcab LE 2WD.
    I love it. It's exactly what I wanted. LOTS of people room.
    A few things I think Nissan should have done better for this year/model:
    Better visibility to blind spots
    Heated side view mirrors
    More storage behind rear seats
    Softer seats or more "bucket" to them

    Gas mileage for me is right around 20MPG. most of my driving is highway. I've seen reports of 12-14 MPG towing in the city.

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    Edited by - nuthouseinva on February 06 2009 13:00:54
     
  6. suprz

    suprz may you never doubt yourself....

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    If and when my trusty Jeep ever dies, I would love to get a crewcab pickup. but it HAS to have 4 wheel drive

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  7. Twisty

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    I am very happy with our 2006 Ford Ranger.
    4.0 V-6, 5 speed auto, 4x4, 5000# towing, 19 mpg.

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  8. fishguy1313

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    From now on, I'll never get anything smaller than a V8/half ton truck for towing. These V6 pickups/SUV's just don't cut it for towing. It is extremely hard on the transmissions and breaks. I strongly suggest you get something in a full size. They are going to hold up a heck of a lot longer.

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  9. Twisty

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    fishguy - the OP stated "Nothing large, not a SUV"
    I stated "I am very happy with our 2006 Ford Ranger."
    Your statement "These V6 pickups/SUV's just don't cut it for towing."
    is not accurate. Perhaps it should have been prefaced with, IMHO. (In My Honest Opinion)

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    I like a V8, and that is what I tow with, but I have to agree with Twisty. There are V6 TV out there that will do a fine job of towing. There is more to consider than just V6 or V8. You have to look at gear ratio, both on the transmission and the rear end. You could put a V8 in some combinations and have a dog while you could put a V6 in another combination have some real pulling power. Way back, I had an old Ford straight 6. I towed my sailboat all over the place with it. I was not passing much, but that old 6 banger never missed a beat. By the way, I just had a ball on the bumper and never knew there was anything better.

    Allen
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    We have a Ram 1500 with a Hemi to tow with. We have never towed with anything else...so I have no opinion other than ours does just fine and it is not a 4x4.
     
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    We have both Nissian 4x4 frontier and 08 chevy siverado. the chevy does better on gas milage than small truck. Our pup weightsthe same or more and both tow fine.

    2007 Rockwood Premier 2302
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  13. Matt O

    Matt O Strangers are friends who have not yet met

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    I have a 4cyl Tacoma that I like, towing a 1,000# Columbia. It is rated to tow 3,400#'s but I wouldn't go over 2,000#'s.

    I looked at the Nissan's and liked them as well. The deciding factor was while I was at the Toyota dealer I overheard 2 people talking about their reliable high mileage Toyotas, 200k, and 300k that was a "sign" for me and I drove home with a Tacoma. I'm sure Nissan has the similar stories.

    The next truck I want is a Diesel Tacoma quad cab. That should have the umph to tow more, better mpg, better for the environment, and go for even higher miles with less repair. Toyota only makes them overseas currently but I would think in 5 or so years we should see them.

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  14. becasunshine

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    D-Mo, pay attention to your tow vehicle's GVWR and payload as well.

    You may find that 6 cylinder vehicles cut you too close on payload capacity. By the time you load your passengers, your cargo and your tongue weight on that 6 cylinder vehicle you may be too close to or over your tow vehicle's GVWR.

    Some regular cab (2 passenger) pick ups can have surprisingly high payloads. I guess this makes sense: it's a pick up truck, it's designed to haul stuff.

    Just make sure you put your eyes on the payload capacity, GVWR and GCWR as well as the towing capacity of any specific truck and make sure it will accommodate your needs.

    We just went through this exercise (again) and we were sometimes surprised at the small payload capacity, as well as the small towing capacity, small GVWR and small GCWR on some pick up trucks. (Why own a pick up truck with a small capacities? I don't get it. A pick up truck is, by its very nature, supposed to be a beast of burden. Or so I thought.)

    We ended up with a V8 Durango to get the payload and the towing capacity we wanted, plus the ability to seat people in the back seat if we needed to do so on occasion.

    We weren't looking for an excuse to buy a V8, we've never owned a V8 and we had no desire to start now, but given our particular needs the V8 was what worked for us.

    Your needs may be different than ours and your mileage may vary.
    Happy shopping!

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  15. Halister

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    You would be surprised what they can do now. I have a 2003 Trailblazer with a 4.2 and the test was surprising. they placed it inline 6. I can barely feel my 3000+lb pup behind me.

    We had our test vehicle charging up a mountain pass with a 5,000-pound trailer attached to the standard trailer hitch. Though this was 800 pounds shy of the TrailBlazer's maximum towing capacity, we thought it was a fair test. And the truck pulled through remarkably well, powering up the 10-percent grade with confidence. A stomp on the accelerator at 60 mph produced a surprising burst of speed.

    I get enough exercise just pushing my luck.

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  16. nuthouseinva

    nuthouseinva Portsmouth, Virginia

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    On another note, my previous TV was a 97 Jeep Cherokee sport 2wd with the Straight Six cylinder 4.0L. Powerwise and transmissionwise it had plently of muscle but lacked in suspension and braking.
    Was nice to have the big cargo area in the back when seat were folded down. Kept everything nice and dry on the way to the campground.

    Still have my wife's 98 Jeep Grand Cherokee with an inline six too. It's our boat tower and/or support vehicle.

    Brian and Casey
    Portsmouth, VA

    Loving our 1975 Apache Royal Hardside Pop-up
    NO CANVAS, NO ZIPPERS, NO VELCRO!
    (Work in progress)
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    2008: Camped 9 nights. (not enough)
    2009: Many more! (5 booked so far!)

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  17. 3pillons

    3pillons Press hard, Five copies.

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    Another choice, Suzuki just released it's truck. Called Equator, it's a rebadged Frontier, but I think lower priced.


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  18. D-mo

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    Thanks everyone for all the replys .. I have been out haggling with dealers, which I thought was supposed to be fun!!!
    3pillons, your right on the money .. I have switched views to a Equator ... about 3 grand lower than the Frontier, but for guys who are teatering on the cliff of death, these retailors sure don't to give too much away.
    Will let you know how it all works out ..

    thanks all

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  19. 3pillons

    3pillons Press hard, Five copies.

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    Good luck D, You might need to be a little patient. The truck is new and supply I think is still pretty bad. My local dealer doesn't even have any 4 doors yet, only ext. cabs. I bet in a month or two, if you can wait, there will be more to go around. And perhaps more fun to be had haggling for them.


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  20. ColemanBayviewMoneypit

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    Went trought the same process last year. My pop-up wheights 2900lbs ''dry'' so, in other words + - 3500lbs in ''hit the road '' setup!!! We ended up buying the best of both world: 2008 Grand Cherokee v6 Turbo Diesel (mercedes engine). Towing cap. rated @7200lbs and much cheaper on fuel than our old Grand caravan (20%less). Match made in heaven in our case. Happy shopping...

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    '68 France
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