OK, Steve and I have been talking about making the PUP a paid subscription site and we need your feedback and option. As you all know me, Im going to ramble and get my thoughts and our conversation on paper... well here anyway. The portal gets very little donations, not even enough to cover the expense of the site let alone other things we want to do to make improvements. We are looking into advertising but it will be very difficult because of our member base. We have 17,500+ members, they are what we had over the last 6 years. Steve is running web stats but its more like 3k and 500 or 600 active. Its very hard to sell a campground ad in Bumfuc, Michigan when we only have 25 active members in a 150 mile radius. We also arent big enough for Cabelas, Bass Pro and Camping World. We will be looking into Google ads or similar but we are worried of they over run the site. (PUX) We have a great site, with great people and a lot of useful and entertaining information. We want to keep it that way. The new layout might look something like We will have a welcome page much like the existing page with two main changes. (1) The welcome paragraph at the top will include the features and details of the site with a very broad over view of our forum boards. (2) The right side will have non-subscription buttons at the top and paid-subscription buttons under that. Now, heres how it might work? All people coming to the site must become a member and receive a user name and password to access the site. (in other words, they must sign-up). 1. The non-paid member with 30day limit, which must become a paid membership after that. a. They will have access to all threads and able to post for those 30 days 2. Paid member a. Continued access to all threads and able to post b. Email capabilities??? c. Maybe instant messenger (maybe NOT) d. A photo gallery with sub albums (limit size and number of photos) e. Access to manuals (fyi more members access of site by searching for manuals then any other reason) f. Access to campground search (maybe using Google ads and maps) g. Sweepstakes (once we got it back up and running) h. Other ideas??? Cost: 1. New members to the site will have a $9.99 fee for the first year and $5 each additional year. 2. Existing non-donation members will have 30 days notice for a $5 per year membership free 3. Existing donation members will keep full access and add the new features - $10 - $40 one year - $50 - $90 two years - $100 up three years 4. Donations still available if someone is feeling generous With these options, our member count shouldnt really change any average 400 new members a month (maybe increase) and our total growth shouldnt change any. What will change is the 500 active members will pay a $5 year fee and the portal will have the ability to pay for the site, offer giveaways and promotions, give gifts to the rally coordinators and sponsor our annual moderators rally weekend. It is possible for a member to create a new user every 30 days (which we could track) but who cares? They aren't getting much out of the site if they need to create a new idnetity each month. Coming from a guy who was laid-off a week ago I think that the 6 years of information and entertainment collected and available to our campers is worth $5 per year. Please voice your thoughts a concerns, this web site has grown to what it is today because of you. From Steve and I, thanks!