That was about 4 years ago so it would be very difficult for me to remember. It had sufficient credibility that we believed it. It was a doc on Youtube about a group either from Oz or New Zealand that had enlisted the help of other countries. They would get the patient's permission and the hospital doing the mastectomy would send them the breast material. The non stick material was being deposited in the fat cells so they were rendering the nonstick material out of the breast fat cells. I remember they said the US had 6x the material than OZ. There was one thing that convinced me of their credibility. Have you noticed that the non stick material changes about every 5 to 7 years? They claimed the manufacturers know about the material's problems. It takes about 5 to 8 years to gather the documentation, for the process to flow through the government and the FDA to take action against the material. The green ceramic stuff is supposed to be great until in cracks and that occurs in the first few months. The University of Georgia did research on microwave use. We took our microwave out of the camper. The one in the kitchen is a coffee warmer and pre cast iron warmer. HAve never seen any Outdoor gourmet. Agree on Ozark trail. Grind the "finish" off a Lodge. The surface reminds you of France during WWI. Our Lodges were ground out with a right angle grinder then sanded with a sandpaper flapper ring. We have a lightweight 8" Wagner that is a good egg frier. We are up to about 10+ pieces and if we go by a flea market my eye is open for old pieces. Lee Valley or pre 1940's Stanley and Records? Or are you Lei Nielson?