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Popular Brands of PUPs

  1. Coleman (not Fleetwood, 1988 & earlier yrs.)

    93 vote(s)
    8.2%
  2. Jayco

    126 vote(s)
    11.1%
  3. Fleetwood (incl later yr. Coleman)

    274 vote(s)
    24.1%
  4. Trailmanor

    10 vote(s)
    0.9%
  5. Starcraft

    151 vote(s)
    13.3%
  6. Rockwood

    94 vote(s)
    8.3%
  7. Aliner

    14 vote(s)
    1.2%
  8. Palomino

    72 vote(s)
    6.3%
  9. Viking

    72 vote(s)
    6.3%
  10. Somerset

    10 vote(s)
    0.9%
  11. Flagstaff

    59 vote(s)
    5.2%
  12. Coachmen

    37 vote(s)
    3.3%
  13. Bonair

    6 vote(s)
    0.5%
  14. Apache

    6 vote(s)
    0.5%
  15. Camplite by Camplite/Damon/Keystone

    13 vote(s)
    1.1%
  16. Chalet

    4 vote(s)
    0.4%
  17. Livin Lite Quicksilver, Camplite

    12 vote(s)
    1.1%
  18. Krown

    1 vote(s)
    0.1%
  19. Westholt Cruisers

    2 vote(s)
    0.2%
  20. Dutchmen by Thor

    10 vote(s)
    0.9%
  21. Sun Kamper

    1 vote(s)
    0.1%
  22. Holtkamper

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  23. Kimberley Kampers

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  24. Lees-ure Lite

    3 vote(s)
    0.3%
  25. Aspen

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  26. Kamperoo

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  27. SylvanSport

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  28. Skamper

    25 vote(s)
    2.2%
  29. Esterel Supermatic

    3 vote(s)
    0.3%
  30. Wheel Camper Clubwagon, Lodgewagon

    1 vote(s)
    0.1%
  31. Nimrod / Wayfarer

    7 vote(s)
    0.6%
  32. Western Field Tent

    1 vote(s)
    0.1%
  33. ______

    9 vote(s)
    0.8%
  34. Sun Valley, Sun-Lite

    9 vote(s)
    0.8%
  35. Bethany / Texson

    8 vote(s)
    0.7%
  36. Heilite

    1 vote(s)
    0.1%
  37. Chenango

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  38. R-Vision Bantam Trailite

    1 vote(s)
    0.1%
  39. Conway

    1 vote(s)
    0.1%
  40. Parkland

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  41. Montgomery Ward (Western Field Edition)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  42. Shasta

    1 vote(s)
    0.1%
  1. Camp-N-Nuts

    Camp-N-Nuts KrustyKamper

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    Does this mean something? [?:~{]
     
  2. Haybale

    Haybale I'd rather be camping!!

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    I think they are mouse turds!! haha [LOL]
     
  3. ChocoChock01

    ChocoChock01 On the road aagaain See Rallies below;

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    that is "I think I will retract this comment."
     
  4. Tacoma_Jim

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    ChocoChock01 On the road aagaain See Rallies below;

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    we have more Skampers logged than Somerset's??


    That is a good article telling what I would expect a company who has plans to grow the brand rather than siphon off past reputation.


    They are taking a tested design with plans on improving as they go. Thus, the argument of lightening the design would be expected.


    After all, compare the handling, acceleration, efficiency, AND maintenance of 1968 Dodge Charger to a 2014 Dodge Charger. Both companies have changed ownership over the years, have the similar models in production AND have vastly improved the engineering.


    Hope Somerset is a financial success!!
     
  6. Tacoma_Jim

    Tacoma_Jim Member

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    It looks like on here and I'm sure around the country, Fleetwood/Coleman had a big share of the market. I don't understand how they couldn't keep going when Jayco, Palomino and others made it through the bad times? Bad management?
     
  7. ChocoChock01

    ChocoChock01 On the road aagaain See Rallies below;

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    They were owned by an investment company ( Blackstreet Capital Management – a Chevy Chase, Md.-based private equity fund) that probably had set margins to maintain and if they weren't going to make them in the foreseeable future, you shutter the doors.


    Even though Berkshire Hathaway is also an investment company, they tend to look at markets and synergy within those markets.


    http://www.rvbusiness.com/2011/03/ftcas-closure-under-federal-investigation/
     
  8. ChocoChock01

    ChocoChock01 On the road aagaain See Rallies below;

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    we have over 500+ responses and 9 brands still 0?
     
  9. BigBaron

    BigBaron Dreaming of Tommy's chili cheeseburgers...

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    It was a combination of debt, union wages, and management trying to maintain a reasonable price point without skimping on quality.
    They couldn't compete with FR because FR cut so many corners and Jayco because Jayco was in a better financial position.
    A few years ago I really dug into the financials of the whole matter-it wasn't surprising that they closed.
     
  10. rabird

    rabird Howdy!

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    Poor Fleetwood, they got caught using the Coleman logo on non PUs, they lost the lawsuit and had to pay up, IIRC $14 million. They did retain the right to the Coleman license for PUs and forced Coachmen to stop using it (Futura), Coleman had to pay Coachmen off since Coleman had entered into a license agreement with Coachmen before all the lawsuits. Warranty expense was high for Blackstreet since Coleman's had a life long warranty on certain parts that seemed to fail.

    Late 90s early 00s, Fleetwood shipped more that 20,000 units a year!

    Now, all makers together they ship less than that!

    http://rvia.org/UniPop.cfm?v=2&OID=1132&CC=4128

    http://rvia.org/UniPop.cfm?v=2&OID=1177&CC=2016
     
  11. ChocoChock01

    ChocoChock01 On the road aagaain See Rallies below;

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    Thanks for the de-brief!
    Many wondered the same.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
     
  12. BigBaron

    BigBaron Dreaming of Tommy's chili cheeseburgers...

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  13. rabird

    rabird Howdy!

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    Units sold '06 to '02 from their annual report

    folding trailers 11,075 11,253 14,543 17,118 17,946
     
  14. pandpcamper

    pandpcamper Lifetime camper, newer to pup

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    Tried to list our Palomino and Skamper, but wouldn't accept 2 votes. Just goes to show why we need to sell the Skamper real quick and not have two PUPs to push around to driveway and garage. Actually we were supposed to sell today, but the weather was part of the problem!
     
  15. ChocoChock01

    ChocoChock01 On the road aagaain See Rallies below;

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    Time to do another snap shot of %.
     
  16. pckeen

    pckeen New Member

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    Agreed - this should be a running poll.
     
  17. boopheads

    boopheads I'd rather be camping

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    Guess we are the only Coachmen owners BB. LOL
     
  18. BigBaron

    BigBaron Dreaming of Tommy's chili cheeseburgers...

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    I'm not laughing, trust me... [V]
     
  19. ChocoChock01

    ChocoChock01 On the road aagaain See Rallies below;

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    I'm surprise by the number of Skampers!


    Being they stopped making them in 1995.
    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070627112411AAA3nMW
     
  20. alwayssummer

    alwayssummer Lees-ure Lite Excel

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    I'm the second Lees-ure Lite owner! Yay! [:D]
     

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