Popup Gizmos: Make or buy?

Discussion in 'Heating / Cooling Systems' started by kmh1596, Oct 13, 2008.

  1. bud121156

    bud121156 Western North Carolina

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    I had a few original clamps that came with the gizmos,break, so I ordered more like them from E bay

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    kevin,
    i too purchased my blankets from REI, just the right size for a twin bunk and a full bunk. i bought my clips from target, the laundry section, they are white plastic w/ plastic gripper stuff on the inside of the clip and they work great. no metal to rust, and very cheap.

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  3. kmh1596

    kmh1596 Wilbraham, MA

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    Lynn, so you put them <i>inside</i> the bunk? I've always heard of them being outside the canvas... What was the advantage (or the original thought of the advantage) of putting them inside?

    auntlulu, I'll probably do that, thanks for the tip! The spring is probably metal, but small enough that it won't cause much damage if it rusts, and I can replace them if/when they do.

    bud: how long have you had yours, and have they rusted? How often have they been exposed to rain, etc?

    Thanks all!

    *Kevin*
    <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_pu.gif border=0 align=middle alt="PopUp"> 2004 Rockwood 1940 LTD, <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_suv.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tow Vehicle"> 96 Cherokee 2dr 5spd, <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_canoe.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Canoe"> ~16' Old Town Canoe
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  4. LynnAllen02

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    I know, I know, Kevin, but necessity is the Mother of Invention you know?

    We thought it was going to rain and didn't have time to set up the Velcro at the top of the canvas...and once popped up, neither one of us could reach the top to do the Velcro then...

    So we put it inside and used the shepherd poles to hold them up with clips at the inside end of the bunk! And it worked great we were nice and warm! But the liquid factor, it was a LOT OF CONDENSATION under there, it poured down like rain when we took it down! <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_lol.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Laugh Out Loud"> <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_lol.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Laugh Out Loud"> <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_lol.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Laugh Out Loud">

    I know it isn't the way you are supposed to do it! But it worked to keep us warm!

    Lynn

    PS: People do use them under the bunk mattress shiny side up to help keep warm, so why not above you? Well, I know why now!<img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Blush">

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    Edited by - LynnAllen02 on October 23 2008 17:38:48
     
  5. kmh1596

    kmh1596 Wilbraham, MA

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    Lynn,
    Ohhh okay. I wasn't trying to be insulting at all, and I hope it didn't come across that way. I had honestly just never thought of putting them inside. In a rainy situation absent the velcro, and having my normally inconvenient height of 6'5" <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Black Eye">, I would have done the same thing!

    I'll definitely be putting some under the bunks on mine as well, between that and the memory foam topper, it will definitely have a barrier to cold air from underneath! <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Smile">

    *Kevin*
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  6. LynnAllen02

    LynnAllen02 Active Member

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    I am trying not to jack the thread, but am really interested in the answer to my question about when the blankets are used on the outside:

    Do they get condensation between the layers?
    Or is there more condensation inside?

    No insult taken, humility is needed when confessing to a SPUT!

    Oh and by the way, we never got a drop of rain, that was the end to the rain in the area and we had the same beautiful weather you were treated to in your beautiful spot as seen by your pictures! But seeing as the blankets were working so conveniently on the inside, we never tried to fix them. Thought we had a great idea!

    My DH would never have jockeyed into position there, but the site is lovely!

    Lynn

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  7. bud121156

    bud121156 Western North Carolina

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    Kevin, the clamps that came with my gizmos bought in the spring of 07, showed no rust.
    I just bought the additional claps off E bay just a few months ago.

    Donnie and Cheryl
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  8. kmh1596

    kmh1596 Wilbraham, MA

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    bud, have you had the ebay ones in the rain as of yet? One thing about the Gizmos I have heard is the clips they came with were superior to what you can easily find at a hardware store. I don't like rust, not on my car, or my pup canvas! <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Tongue">

    Lynn, for reasons beyond my understanding, I'd guess that the same would <i>not</i> happen outside, but the same would logcially occur as there is warm air underneath and cold air on top. I think the point is creating a barrier (similar to a double pane window) to prevent that?

    Interesting question though, I too am interested in what people have experienced.

    Well the spot there has a driveway about 20' farther up which you could back into easily, but what fun is what when I can <i>eventually</i> get it situated next to the water? <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Big Smile">

    *Kevin*
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    Edited by - kmh1596 on October 24 2008 09:05:14
     
  9. bud121156

    bud121156 Western North Carolina

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    The clamps from E bay seem to have a stronger bite, which may not be a good thing on the material and the canvas its clamping down on....otherwise they appear to be exactly the same with a vinyl tip on them. Both clamps will come apart if you torque or twist them when trying to apply them and they are aggravating to get the little pin thru the spring and back in the hole on the other end.
    I will see how the clamps do in the rain today, The camper is set up at Kings Mountain State Park for this weekend's Halloween activities. Be back down there later tonight.

    Donnie and Cheryl
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  10. scullifer

    scullifer New Member

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    This weekend will be the first trip with my new Popup Gizmo's and was wondering, if it is in the low to mid 40's at night and mid 70's in the day, which side down would be better?

    Dark side down to keep out the daytime heat, or dark side up to help with the night time cooling?

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  11. PopUpSteve

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    I would do "Dark Side Up". You won't be in the Pup that much during the day, it's the night that you need to be concerned about. So let the heat build up during the day and let it retain it for the colder nights.

    Steve
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