PSA: popupportal is for pop up campers

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geoffm3

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Jun 21, 2010
209
This is a mini-PSA... I've seen a lot of posts in here (and a few elsewhere) talking about how pop up campers suck, I hate them, they are such a hassle, I upgraded to a hard sided camper because I hated pop up camping, etc.

Honest question: if you don't like pop up campers, why are you here? News flash: people pick pop-up campers for a variety of reasons, budget is not the only one. Lots of folks are here because they chose a popup over other RV options. There's plenty of reasons to pick them over other RV types, money is but one facet.

I don't begrudge anyone showing how they moved from pop up to something else. No problem with that. But, please don't look at your choice as an aspirational goal for everyone. Some folks don't care or want to "upgrade." They have made a conscious choice to own and use a pop up camper. It's a bit like going into a vegan forum and saying that you are a meat eater now and how it's so much better. :)

Here's just a short list of reasons that you might pick a pop up camper that have absolutely nothing to do with money (at least not directly):

1. A pop up camper can be kept garaged at your house. Important if you have restrictive covenants in your neighborhood and want to be able to keep the camper on your property.
2. A pop up camper is much easier for a person of modest mechanical skills to maintain.
3. A pop up camper requires a much smaller tow vehicle than a hard sided camper.
4. A pop up camper has a much smaller carbon footprint than a hard sided camper.
5. A pop up camper can fit in more places in more campgrounds than a hard sided camper. If a camper won't fit lengthwise, a smaller camper can be maneuvered more perpendicular in a site to fit and still not break the rules of fitting on the pad.
6. You are closer to nature in a pop up camper than a hard sided camper
7. The best travel trailer windows cannot compete with a pop up camper with the windows unzipped.
8. Much lower tow profile means that a pop up camper is much much easier to tow, definitely in a head wind, especially in a cross wind.
9. If it matters to you, your bed is up off the ground, meaning that you can sit into the bed.
10. Pop ups are fun to DIY


These are just some of the reasons off the top of my head. There are surely more and I'll edit them as I think of them or people respond. I encourage you to add your own list of reasons why you would choose a pop up that have nothing to do with money. Perhaps someone considering a pop up camper over "superior" options might find it useful.
 
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J Starsky

Super Active Member
Aug 3, 2017
1,395
East Central MN
Ok, but I'm going to keep owning both and enjoying them as I want. You do you.

I am welcomed here with my TT. You won't make me feel otherwise. Everyone has always been really nice to me. Folks dig my DIY projects, as most transfer from either platform. You can camp where I've been camping, so I'll keep writing camp reviews as well. I remember feeling pretty alone when I fixed my old PUP without the aid of interwebs, and I inspire folks to fix their own junk. I even get called out on StarCraft repair posts and always seem to be helpful.

I like it here. It is nice.
 

geoffm3

Active Member
Jun 21, 2010
209
Ok, but I'm going to keep owning both and enjoying them as I want. You do you.

I am welcomed here with my TT. You won't make me feel otherwise. Everyone has always been really nice to me. Folks dig my DIY projects, as most transfer from either platform. You can camp where I've been camping, so I'll keep writing camp reviews as well. I remember feeling pretty alone when I fixed my old PUP without the aid of interwebs, and I inspire folks to fix their own junk. I even get called out on StarCraft repair posts and always seem to be helpful.

I like it here. It is nice.
I don't mind people owning both types. IF you look at my sig, you'll see that I'm in the same boat currently. I'm not trying to run people off here, just trying to make sure people realize that it's a pop up camper forum first and foremost so negative sentiments towards pop ups with regard to "superiority" of other types may not be particularly useful or welcome.
 

Snow

Super Active Member
Jul 19, 2007
12,272
Ontario
I'll, disagree with #2,6, 9&10..

#2 depends on what the popup is and contains, as well as what the TT is and contains.. Annual maintenance on the two types is actually the same, with a TT actually being easier, since it doesn't need to be popped up to do the inside stuff.
#6 you are only as close to nature as you want to be in either type. I still use my TT as a place to sleep, and hangout in if it's raining or snowing and too windy to have either the awning out or the ezup up.. other then then sleeping and not having to walk to the comfort stations , I'm outside majority of the time.
#9 I can sit on the bed in my TT as well. So can the dogs.
#10 Any enclosed trailer us fun to d.i.y. infact you can personalize the inside of a TT a lot more then you can a popup, if you wish, because you can decorate the walls.

Also TT has extended our camping season by up to 4 months, unlike with the popup, we can decide to camp in the winter and be nice and cozy at night.. infact I know a number of people who camp only in the winter.

I'll stop there before I get in trouble (again).. but I'm sure most of the TT converts will agree with my disagreements..
 

1380ken

Super Active Member
Nov 7, 2013
2,987
Mass
I'll, disagree with #2,6, 9&10..

#2 depends on what the popup is and contains, as well as what the TT is and contains.. Annual maintenance on the two types is actually the same, with a TT actually being easier, since it doesn't need to be popped up to do the inside stuff.
#6 you are only as close to nature as you want to be in either type. I still use my TT as a place to sleep, and hangout in if it's raining or snowing and too windy to have either the awning out or the ezup up.. other then then sleeping and not having to walk to the comfort stations , I'm outside majority of the time.
#9 I can sit on the bed in my TT as well. So can the dogs.
#10 Any enclosed trailer us fun to d.i.y. infact you can personalize the inside of a TT a lot more then you can a popup, if you wish, because you can decorate the walls.

Also TT has extended our camping season by up to 4 months, unlike with the popup, we can decide to camp in the winter and be nice and cozy at night.. infact I know a number of people who camp only in the winter.

I'll stop there before I get in trouble (again).. but I'm sure most of the TT converts will agree with my disagreements..
I think that the point is that this is a pop up forum and even if your TT is far superior to a pop up, you should keep it to yourself. Why bother arguing his stated benefits of owning his pop up even if you don't agree? I do wonder how many people own a TT on this forum. Maybe the name of the forum should be changed to be more inclusive.
 
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geoffm3

Active Member
Jun 21, 2010
209
I'll, disagree with #2,6, 9&10..

#2 depends on what the popup is and contains, as well as what the TT is and contains.. Annual maintenance on the two types is actually the same, with a TT actually being easier, since it doesn't need to be popped up to do the inside stuff.
#6 you are only as close to nature as you want to be in either type. I still use my TT as a place to sleep, and hangout in if it's raining or snowing and too windy to have either the awning out or the ezup up.. other then then sleeping and not having to walk to the comfort stations , I'm outside majority of the time.
#9 I can sit on the bed in my TT as well. So can the dogs.
#10 Any enclosed trailer us fun to d.i.y. infact you can personalize the inside of a TT a lot more then you can a popup, if you wish, because you can decorate the walls.

Also TT has extended our camping season by up to 4 months, unlike with the popup, we can decide to camp in the winter and be nice and cozy at night.. infact I know a number of people who camp only in the winter.

I'll stop there before I get in trouble (again).. but I'm sure most of the TT converts will agree with my disagreements..
I’d say #2 depends. There’s not as many dual axle pop ups, some don’t have brakes (ours doesn’t).

My list is not just relative to travel trailers but inclusive of tent camping as well.
 

generok

Super Active Member
Feb 7, 2013
3,457
Anchorage, AK
I think the community standards address this just fine. Treat everyone with respect, no harassment, avoid the "topics which shall not be named" and its all good. This is one of the nicest and most respectful online communities out there, and many folks here do not own PUPs.

I will tell you this; if someone is violating the community standards, let Pop Up Steve know ASAP. You can also personally block people you think are zealots on their opinion and expressing it. Both of these options work, and put the power in your hands in behaviors you can personally control.

I hope you elect to stick around the Portal, regardless of the rig you elect to operate.
 

RCmom

Active Member
Jun 19, 2021
107
New Jersey
I couldn't care less what type of camping unit someone camps in. I've camped every type of camping from hammock to tent to luxury class c with 5 slide-outs. I don't look "up" or "down", I camp.

Anyone who has owned a popup in the past likely has good advice for when I run into a problem I can't fix, so I welcome them and their TT/MH. Anyone who currently has a popup likely has an idea they are willing to share, so I welcome them. Anyone who wants to camp in a popup is likely to find significant advice and support, so I welcome them and whatever they have or haven't camped in.

Everybody camps different. No one way of camping is better than another. Each has pros and cons. Everybody gets to prioritize the pros and cons for themselves.
 

geoffm3

Active Member
Jun 21, 2010
209
I think that the point is that this is a pop up forum and even if your TT is far superior to a pop up, you should keep it to yourself. Why bother arguing his stated benefits of owning his pop up even if you don't agree? I do wonder how many people own a TT on this forum. Maybe the name of the forum should be changed to be more inclusive.
To be clear: I am not trying to run anyone off here, just to say to consider the audience and the topic of the forum.
 
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