I understand ranking brands/models high to low on perceived quality can be a sensitive topic. I searched and did not find and brand quality discussion. I am new to owning a pup. We are considering upgrading to get a NTU slide out and a better condition pup than our first/current '99 Starcraft 10' box starter pup for next season. I am hoping folks can share their pros & cons experience with pups they own or have owned. There is such an historical depth of experience and knowledge on this forum, that a lot could be shared to help newer pup folks have a better idea of what to look at and for to match their particular wants and needs in a pup. I'm hoping folks can share their 'Pros & Cons' experiences in a non brand bashing way. Maybe pup brands will be in a 'Below Average', 'Average', and 'Above Average' range of pros and cons based on initial build quality, build materials, and overall design. Those here with first-hand knowledge of several brands & models, opinions will be most useful. Those of us with only first-hand knowledge of only one brand (your current pup), can be good info too. The bottom line trying to be assessed is: What brand(s) could be considered 1) Above Average, 2) Average, 3)Below Average? I'm thinking of rankings for the used market of 20+, 15+, 10+ 5+ years old pups. Most folks seem to be looking for the best camping value in a used vs new pup I think. All levels will have things needing repair over time. Some issues may be more frequent or systemic to certain brands. By design, brands geared to a lower initial price point, are more likely to find themselves in the below average over the test of time. There is no shame in this. It's simply lower initial build cost vs. higher initial build cost, Apples and Oranges. Maybe an alternative way to get a 'sense' of theoretical build quality is hearing what brands were higher priced in their day and currently. Please share the info about the brands/ models you have direct experience with or knowledge of (to the best of your recollection). Ex: Year, Brand, Model, Box length, ≈Dry Weight, Lift System (note non-standard features like Slide Out, Front Storage, Highwall, other).