PUP, Tongue Weight, & rear sagging

Discussion in 'Tow Vehicles, Hitch & Towing' started by Dammitjim, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. Dammitjim

    Dammitjim New Member

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    I have a Honda Odyssey 2005 EX-L towing a 2002 Jayco Eagle Summit 10SG. From the picture below, does it look like it's properly set up? This is a picture with it fully loaded. I didn't have any problems whatsoever towing.

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    I've seen far worse. You are fairly level and even though your TV looks a little rear end heavy, if it tows well and still has good suspension reaction, I wouldn't worry about it. You might benefit from a set of air bags to help the suspension if you think it's a little too low. If it was my setup, I would add the airbags but I'm a little anal about the PUP being absolutely level during transit.
     
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    Just curious... would a WDH help me instead of the airbags?
     
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    IMO before I would invest in a WDH, I would check a couple of things, will the pup and the TV accept a WDH? what is the tongue weight of the pup?, is it within then the TV limits? AIR BAGS will not move the weight forward, only raise the rear of the TV.
    You are not that far from perfect
     
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    I don't believe the Odyssey is rated for a WDH. You should confirm that before you go that route.
     
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    airmech, thanks for the heads up. The Honda manual actually states that one should use a WDH and sway bar when towing.
     
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    Unstable_Tripod Well, there's your problem!

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    Check the PUP's manual. The tongue on some PUPs is not rated to handle a WDH.
     
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    Unstable Tripod, thanks for the heads up as well. I know that my PUP recommends for a WDH on page 11 of the owners manual.
    So, again, will a WDH be a good solution for the front being lower?
    As JOET said... I might not even need to do this, but wanted to know the options.
     
  9. airmech2210

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    The airbag option will help lift the rear but the WDH is probably the best choice overall.
     
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    I would do the air bags, If you have rear coil springs air lift makes a kit where the bags fit inside of you springs. It's a really simple install that works great.

    From the pic you don't look very far off to start with.
     
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    I am pulling a much heavier pup than you with my Ody, but IMHO before you decide wdh or air bags take it to a CAT scale and get the weight on each axle. Only then will you know if you need the wdh. Air bags only correct ride height and will not correct the scenario of an overloaded rear axle on the van.
     
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    West Coast Canuck Jumped to the dark side ......

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    You could also reverse the draw bar and put the ball on the otherwise to lift the tongue higher. I did this on my Dodge Caravan because I found the tongue too low
     
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    I did the same thing. Works just fine.
     
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    That's a great suggestion! I don't think I can do it with the draw bar I have now because the ball is crewed in there permanently, but I could probably purchase another one for cheap.
     
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    EvilM0nkey Camping fo free!

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    Although it may not look like it. The van is already on the bump stops. Take a look under it next time and you will see. Those vans can hit the bump stops in the rear unloaded with normal driving.
     
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    Where can you see those bump stops? Would driving feel different if that was the case?
     
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    If both the TV and the PUP will take a WDH, I would invest in that.
     
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    Storm Trooper Home is where you park it!

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    Dammitjim,

    I believe you have already answered the two main questions.
    Your Honda recommends a WDH and so does your pup.
    You've got your answer. And yes with a properly setup wdh it will transfer weight to the front end of the TV and level it.
    One last question is whether or not you have a class 3 or better hitch on the TV.
    You can't use a wdh with a class 2 hitch.
     
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    It's a class 3 on the TV.
    Yeah... I'm getting a WDH.
     
  20. EvilM0nkey

    EvilM0nkey Camping fo free!

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    I always saw it on the lift while servicing them, you may be able to crawl under the back and look with a mirror?. Just about every Odyssey (generation 2 and up) have a nice clean or even bare metal spot on the lower control arms inside of the spring where the bump stop is constantly rubbing. But I will say the bump stop is softer than most and about 4 inches long so it does act as a air bag of sorts.
     

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