Refined manners from older Boy Scout - would love to know more...

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  1. hrhchuck235

    hrhchuck235 Member

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    While we were camping at Blue Ridge Campground near Payson in Arizona, a gentleman stood outside our campsite and when he saw us emerge from the Baja which we were setting up, he said, "permission to enter your campground".... it was such a nice gesture and for a good reason, it turned out, and so I asked him where he'd learned these manners and he said from his time, long ago, as a Boy Scout, and so I would love to know other niceties of these sorts while we're camping...does anyone know where we might find a "code" or booklet or other source of manners such as these for while we're camping?
     
  2. silvermickey2002

    silvermickey2002 Morris County, NJ

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    I'm an Assistant Scoutmaster in our troop and don't know of a book on these type of manners, but it's stuff like that we teach the scouts. It's mostly about respect for other peoples property!! Also, being courteous!! [{:)]
     
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    barb_dave Active Member

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    This is so true. My Grandson is in scouts and respect and being courteous is still a key point. You would think these two ideas would be basic to everyone but sadly it doesn't always seem to be that way.

    In the area of camping a scout is taught to "Always leave it better than you found it" Again a simple concept yet it's something I wish some campers would keep in mind before leaving trash behind at the camp site or in the fire pit.

    After all they wouldn't want someone to leave trash in their yard so why do they do it a a campsite? Answer, no respect.
     
  4. hrhchuck235

    hrhchuck235 Member

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    SilverMickey and Barb.Dave - that was what I loved about it - it was SO courteous, but what I also liked was the specificity of the language for the particular situation....anyway, I'm so pleased to have been on the receiving end of this but sorry that there isn't a book I can refer to....I wish adults had a chance to be in something like the Boy Scouts....we all could use a dose of that formality and respect.....
     
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    Phranc New Member

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    A Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent. Those 12 character traits are what is in the "Book." And that book is the Scout Handbook. 52 years ago I learned to recite and live by those words. That and Be Prepared.

    It's a shame more folks don't learn to live by those words. The world would be a much more pleasant place to live.
     
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    jerry_ma Member

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    Its in the Boy Scout Handbook.

    When I was a scout we had "do a good turn daily" on top of the motto and oath.

    I am the equipment Coordinator for our local scout troop :)

    Jerry in MA
     
  7. cztardust

    cztardust Active Member

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    My gramps used to preach scout law when my cousins came in every summer. Do your duty for God and Country, Help others whatever the cost. Trust the word of a fellow scout. Respect your parents. Be a friend and a brother to every other Scout. Be courteous to all. Be kind to animals and to save them from pain. Take trouble as pleasure with a smiling face. Be thrifty and clean but never mean.
    I think that about covers it. Scouts rock! I went to our local Scouts years later and the oath changed a bit, but the sum of the parts he preached were still there. Probably in part that he wasn't raised here in the US.
    A great organization though and when the Scouts have a popcorn fund raiser, I'm buying right now... has nothing to do with the fact that the Carmel Corn is outrageously fantastic. Really. Well maybe it does... as a matter of fact I think I'm going to the kitchen to open a box :p
     
  8. bburgcamper

    bburgcamper 16 weekends a year camping just isn't enough.

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    I have been involved with Scouting for several years now. We have used the "permission to enter" and it does a nice job of establishing boundaries and teaches respect for the privacy of others. I am a little biased as I have one son who earned his Eagle and another on his way. I have been truly amazed as to what Scouts has taught my sons and the influence it has had on their lives. I did not do scouting as a youth but as an adult it has become a major part of my life. It also allows me to spend more time camping.

    I have picked up the phone or sent an email on multiple occasions requesting help for various charities and will have 15 to 20 young men show up to help. They have the volunteer mentality that is sadly missing with too many people today (young and old).

    On a side note, volunteer at a local troop if you have a hobby or unique talent that you would like to share. A few hours of your time may be the spark that changes someone else's life and future. There is also a pretty good chance that you will have fun doing it. If you need more detailed information, feel free to PM me.
     
  9. silvermickey2002

    silvermickey2002 Morris County, NJ

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    Yes, get involved! There are a lot of skills we have that can be shared with the scouts! The feeling of watching the boys cross over from Cub Scouts into the Boys Scouts and watching them grow up is a great feeling that you helped them learn some skills and hopefully get them ready to be a young man!

    Our son is an Eagle Scout and I have watched him and his friends grow up and it truly is amazing to watching them now. They want to give back to the community. Our son and his friend are now volunteer fireman in our town and really enjoy helping people!

    And yes, the Scout Law and Oath are in the Scout Handbook!
     
  10. benfrench

    benfrench Woodbridge, VA

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    Scouting was a huge part of my life growing up. I earned my Eagle at 14 and stayed with the troop for a couple more years after that. I am now the Chartered Organizational Representative for the local Troop and Pack in town and I am also an assistant adviser in the Venture Crew here in town.
     
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    Wow, if only more people were like that!

    My DH is an Eagle and assistant cubmaster. I am an assistant den leader. Ds is a bear scout.

    I do not know of a resource for you, but I do intend on passing this on to my den.
     
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    An Eagle Scout myself, I still find myself following many of the practices I did years ago when actively involved with scouting. I truly do feel like there is some great guidance in scouting that helps to form a rag-tag group of boys into productive, respectful, and respectable young men. I hope that my young son has an interest in scouting as I will support him 110% in it if he feels it is a good fit for him.

    One thing that stands out which I'll add to this thread that we did as a Troop when packing up after a camp out is that we would "police" our site for trash. Again, leaving the site better than we found it. We would basically form a line shoulder to shoulder and scour the site picking up any trash we or others may have left behind. We always followed a leave-no-trace ethic which is especially important to us boondockers if we cant to keep the privilege of being able to camp where we please.
     
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    Leave only footprints, take only memories.
     
  14. hrhchuck235

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    Thank you all....I will look into the possibility of contributing to our local Scout Troop - I can't help but think what a better world we'd have if we all went through the Scouting Programs you've described....

    Our nephew is an Eagle Scout and we've always treasured his behavior and demeanor, but never considered the possibility that he became so delightful to have around as a result of his scouting experiences - now that I've had a chance to read your responses, it seems likely that it was a powerful contributor.

    I'm printing out the cztardust mantra to put on my desk and plan to follow it personally..

    Thank you again - all you wonderful Scouts!
     
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    We have taught our boys that they are not allowed to walk into another camper's site. They know that if they are invited to enter by another camper, they must get permission from us first!

    Jeepers also follow the "leave no trace" rule, often the boys and I will walk our campsite while Jeepin Dad is hooking up to pick up bits and pieces of trash.

    We have our boys in Cub Scouts. I'd love to see them go all the way to Eagle Scout! It is a huge accomplishment and my congratulations to those posting above for their achievement :) We also have the boys involved at our church (Jeepin Dad and I teach Sunday School and coordinate the VBS every summer). We cut out organized sports this year, I don't think our guys enjoyed it. I am thinking maybe archery or a shooting club might interest them in the fall. They both are interested in hunting with their Dad and Grampy. Then there is our camping activities, appreciation for nature and wildlife. I believe these kinds of activities will give the boys more of the values that we grew up with... I hope so...
     
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    Scouting, like most (all?) organizations has some issues, but I know it was crucial to me becoming the person I am today. Ive been involved in scouting since I was in 1st grade. I'm an Eagle Scout, and am now working to guide my 13yo son in that direction too.

    Scouting is the only organization I can think of that defines behavior traits they want young people to live up to, and then through a series of reviews, repetition, guidance and modeling, actually holds young people accountable for if they meet that standard.

    There aren't too many places in the "everybody gets a trophy" world were it is as clear cut. To achieve X, you must do Y. This lesson of responsibility and accountability is greatly needed for our young people.

    As an adult I've valued being involved you help my kids and their friends grow. I've made great friends too and it doesn't hurt us adults either to promise to be "trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obidient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent" over and over again either.
     
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    I am an Eagle Scout myself. I stayed on in my troop, became an assistant scoutmaster until i moved away to Tennessee 6 years ago. I spent 24 years in the troop, and these are all things our scoutmaster drilled into us in the begining. Especially at Jamboree's where troops are on top of each other. We would never cut through another campsite, and even he would ask permission to enter other sites. As i became involved as a leader, i would take over the role of teaching camp etiquette to the boys. I saw Mr. Berger escort more than one scout who cut through our campsite several times back to their unit and talk to their leaders (of course, he knew almost everyone).
    We always were respectiful to other leaders, because if we wern't, it got back to him and quick! I have a daughter now, but i still toy with the idea of finding a local troop to volunteer with to help out. I really miss the camputs.

    Even now when my wife and i go tent camping, i find myself picking up trash that was there when we got there. Always leave a campsite better than you found it.

    Wayne Roder
    Eagle Scout c/o 1991
    BSA Troop 109 Valrico, Fl
     
  18. cprdnick

    cprdnick Just Clint

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    I went all the way up to First Class, then discovered cars and girls. I still live by the traits I was taught while scouting, however, quitting before going to Eagle has really been one of those things that has stuck with me since then. Shoulda Woulda Coulda.
    I can only hope my children can have the same opportunity to grow like myself and many others have in the past.
     
  19. Unstable_Tripod

    Unstable_Tripod Well, there's your problem!

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    I fell a step short of Eagle when I was in the Scouts but I have attained it here on the Portal.
     
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    cprdnick Just Clint

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    Maybe this is my second chance. [;)]
     

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