Removing AC

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  1. prncssgeek

    prncssgeek New Member

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    Silly Question time:

    How do I get this thing off? I can only find two screws on the inside and I'm assuming that this cover comes off so that you can take the other part off.

    And then that leads to the other question. Once its able to be removed, how do I safely get it off the roof.

    I was reading another thread and saw where someone said to crank it up, pull out the beds, crank it down. That seems reasonable but is it safe? Has anyone tried this? Are there any other suggestions?

    Thanks!

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  2. suprz

    suprz may you never doubt yourself....

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    i would think it is definitely a two person job. my first thought was to get on a ladder and have the top up and have someone inside crouch down while you crank the top down alittle till the person inside coudl lift it from underneath while you wrestle with it on top while on the ladder? or some sort of scaffold across the top of the PUP just above the roof? so you could get closer to the A/C? unfortunately i have never had to do it. sorry.<img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Sad">

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  3. jetrail

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    we replaced my mother in laws on her camper but it was a travel trailer , after getting the inside cover off there should be 4 bolts which hole the ac on the roof after loosening them you will most likely have to crank the top down because the unit that sits on the roof isn't light , i haven't done one on a pup but when we did hers there were 2 of us working on it

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  4. prncssgeek

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    I think you guys are right. It is a two person job. I guess I'll have to do that tomorrow when the DH is home during daylight hours to help. Something tells me though that removing an AC unit was on his list of things to do on Valentines day.

    I'm surely missing something on getting this removed though. I finally got the inside off, found four bolts. These bolts appear to be holding the outside part of the unit on. However, no matter how much I turn them, they don't seem to be coming out. I've felt for nuts on the other side, can't feel any.

    <img src="http://www.1day1world1love.com/pics/albums/ac/normal_DSCF4352.JPG" border=0>

    Its about to drive me crazy. They are loose, they turn just fine. But they aren't coming out. And they are about 8 inches long!

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  5. suprz

    suprz may you never doubt yourself....

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    sounds like the nut that the screw ,screws into is turning also. can you see where those screws go to from the outside? take a look and see. you may have to get a wrench in there and hold the nut while someone turns the bolt to get them out. I have had some "captive" nuts on some things that started to turn and to get them to stop turning, i had to put some downforce on the screw while you unscrew it. like fitting a small thin bladed screwdriver between the bolt head and the bracket while you use a socket on the bolt. if there isnt way to get to the nut that is holding that bolt, the only other thing i can think of is to cut the bolt, and once the unit is off you can hopefully get the rest of the bolt out?

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    Edited by - suprz on February 13 2008 13:56:52
     
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    Thats what I thought too. But they don't go through to the outside, they end in the top part of the unit. I have felt for a nut, but can't feel one. I'm about ready to take tin snips to the retainer and cut them out. But, DH wants to keep the AC unit in case I ever decide to install it again. I'm just ready to get the thing off!

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  7. jetrail

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    i think the bolts thread into the bottom of the unit that sits on the roof, it kind clamps the unit down to the roof

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  8. suprz

    suprz may you never doubt yourself....

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    I found this online and it looks like the same opening as your unit. from what i see, they look like the nuts are part of the unit and should not turn.
    http://team.caltech.edu/members/Vehicle/Vehicle/AirConditioning/installation-instructions-8000-series.pdf

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    Assuming it is the nut is on the bottom in your picture, can you grab the bolt with a pair of vise grips, hold it steady, and remove the nut? You may want to soak the nut in 3-in-1, or PB Blaster, or WD-40, for a day first.

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  10. suprz

    suprz may you never doubt yourself....

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    I just called my local fleetwood dealer and spoke to the service manager, he said to try to take the plastic shroud off the unit and see if you can find the bolts and see if there are nuts you can get a pair of vice grips on. if not he said to try putting some down force while trying to unscrew the bolts. (like my previous post) and then he said if all else fails cut the bolt and see it is comes out the other end once the unit is off and you can turn it upside down. but i dont see where that would be of any good when you go to put it back on. you wouldnt have any way to fasten it back down.

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    I got it!!! Blasted it with WD-40, took a break. Came back started turning, 3 of 4 started coming out. Number four broke, retaining bracket has been removed!!! I'm so excited!

    Thanks for all the great help! I did find nuts, just not where I was expecting them to be. DD held them with vise grips while I did the rest.

    And the best part? I have enjoyed my first cup of coffee in the camper!

    The fun part will be lowering the top, removing the caulking, and pulling the unit off. There does not appear to be a gasket. I bet thats why there was a leak!

    You guys are great! Thanks again for the help!

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  12. suprz

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    Glad you got it! now the fun can really start! <img src=../Images/icons/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle alt="Smile">

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    just be careful some of those units can be heavy , but im glad it came off for you , what are you gonna put back on the pup a vent , or those vents w/ the electric fan in them ?

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    I am ready for the fun!

    The girls want to put in a vent with a fan. I want to go with just a vent and DH doesn't care, he just wants to keep the option of adding the AC unit back!

    More than likely, we will do just a vent. Everywhere we camp is well shaded and there are lots of trees, so we always get a breeze.

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    I took out my a/c last year and put in a vent/w fan and don't regret it. The fan is reversible and is great for a breeze when nature isn't supplying it.

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    Fshnfool,
    I like the way yours looks. I think it was your pictures that made me really want to go with a vent in the first place. I may have to give in and give the girls the fan.

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    Congratulations on getting that air conditioner off. Sounds like it was very aggravating.

    Gosh prncssgeek, you live down south, are you sure you want to take that air conditioner off and keep it off? Summer's in Texas can be unbearable, I thought Georgia was hot too.

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    I certainly want to get rid of it. DH isn't so sure. The girls have one state park that they go to all the time to camp and it's always cool there. Always a nice breeze. In fact, last summer they came back to the house to get more blankets because they were cold, that was in August. So I think they will be ok without the AC. I am going to keep the unit in case they change their minds.
    Georgia can be horribly hot and they won't always be camping on the lake. Of course if we don't get some rain it won't be a lake much longer, just a big pond! So I'll put the unit in the garage and see what they say in November!

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    Thanks, good luck with your decision. I know they do make a different kind of cover (shroud) too that allows you to have the fan on when its raining. It's collapsable for travel so that it's not much taller than the regular vent lid. That was about $100 more so I said 'no thanks' and will possibly get that at another time.

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