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Discussion in 'Campsite Security & Safety' started by Nancy Anne, May 30, 2019.

  1. Nancy Anne

    Nancy Anne Member

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    How concerned are you about security? Doug locks up the hitch ball, the receiver to the jeep, the generator, the yeti, the 5 gal gas and water containers, propane tanks, and the trunk lid on camper. He also intends to change locks on hatches. I may have missed something but more than once we have had things taken. We try to make it as had as possible for opportunistic thieves. Not paranoid, just prepared.
     
  2. tfischer

    tfischer A bad day camping beats a good day at the office

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    Not very.

    I do think it's fair to lock up a generator and expensive cooler, as well as the hitch when towing.

    I wouldn't bother locking gas/water cans, and we don't lock up propane or battery. I wouldn't bother changing locks either, but if it makes you feel better, go for it.

    We just got a portable solar panel that we've only used once so far, and I lock that down with a cable, just because it's so portable.

    At some point you just have to trust people. By the time you lock down stoves, grills, yard games, camp chairs and tables, etc. etc. you're living in a prison not out on vacation.
     
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    kitphantom Well-Known Member Platinum Supporting Member

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    On our 2nd popup, we locked the battery, but didn't lock the tanks.
    We've always had a locking pin on the coupler and hitch draw bar. They not only protect from theft, but from having the pins work their way out on the rough roads and many miles we cover. We did have one locking pin malfunction, and had to buy a new saw to cut it off.
    With our small TT, we now have the batteries and LP tanks locked. Not much of an issue in our neighborhood at home, but we'd rather deter the opportunistic thief or vandal at home, on the road, and in a campground. At camp, we do cable the solar panel to the frame of the trailer, or the Progressive EMS, when we have power. However, we haven't much bothered to lock the 20# LP tank and propane campfire when we have them out. Chairs just get tucked under the trailer; our portable tables are usually out under the shade/rain structure.
    Since the pup was simple to break into, we never bothered to change the lock on the second. We did use padlocks on the roof of our first on, as much for not having pins jiggle lose as for vandalism - the way that one was designed, if the front pins were gone, the roof would probably have flown open on the road.
    We did change the storage locks on our TT, not wanting everyone to have that same key. The original door handle/latch broke, so we have a different key than usual there anyway.

    I do a hands-on check after every stop on the road. On a trip a couple of years back, the sway bar was loosened when I stopped at a Walmart. It looked okay, so I didn't notice until I got a bit down the road. There was a pickup truck pulling away as I was walking back to the TT, so I don't know if it was an attempt at theft, or "just" vandalism. [feeling the hubs and checking the plug are also part of the hands-on check; I've had the plug loosen just a wee bit on some long hauls, enough to take the brakes out of service.]
    On another group I read, one of the members just had her draw bar pin stolen (I suppose it may have worked lose, but the report was that it had been removed) - not too far down the road after a stop the trailer hopped off the hitch ball.
     
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    Toedtoes Well-Known Member

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    I don't worry much. I keep expensive items out of sight - camera gear, electronics, etc.

    With the parrot, I do lock the door(s) if I'm stepping away for a length of time just to prevent anyone from wanting to get a closer look.

    I do have coupler and hitch locks. And I have a padlock to keep the roof down.

    Other than that, I don't do anything special. Never had anything stolen yet.
     
  5. Tulip

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    We lock bikes and tarp the kayaks if they are not on the van, and when we leave the campsite we keep the camera equipment in the van. Other than that we don't worry. We have a 25 year old travel trailer. I don't think people are casing our stuff lol.
    Plus we live in Canada.
     
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    Wow, you live in Canada? The land of the never robbed! :rolleyes: Just dont cross that boarder! Ever! Lol. [:D] i kid, i kid......maybe[}:)]
    I will agree, if its not new or flashy it probably will not get stolen. I can see taking the expensive yedi coolers. But a 30 doller target one, not so much. I did buy a remote door alarm for when i go to Disney later this year. Im guessing it will be easy for people tell when were gone for the day.
     
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    Tulip Active Member

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    LOL there are a few places we would like to visit in the States. Lake Placid, a couple of places in the north eastern states, and we loved the lower shore of Lake Erie when we were there a few years ago. We'd also love to see the Grand Canyon - and we would like to take the kids to Florida (I went to high school in FL). But there are lots of places to explore here, and we've decided we are going to wait to see what 2020 brings before making plans.
    Oh - and we don't lock our doors where I live. False sense of security maybe but I like it that way.
     
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    Our storage compartments on the PUP lock along with the front tongue box. Any valueables don't stay in the canvas areas when away and at night or on travel the cooler and food stays in the back of the car anyway. For us it's better to be safe than sorry. However, at the same time we don't worry about people breaking in and stealing things like our clothes and sleeping bags. Same goes for camping chairs or grilles. That and the camper always gets a hitch ball lock, even if you could probably just lift it into the back of a pickup...It's just a habit of DTA unfortunately. I've had many things stolen from locked cars at home so I'd just rather not risk it.
     
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    It depends on where you are/ how far you're traveling... I will lock stuff in town/ at home... at the campground I roll my eyes at the sound of everyone locking their cars (and cringe at the horn confirmations)... My keys are usually in my truck, back end open, camper open, camp kitchen & solar setup out... when I can't do that I will find a new campground or hang up my gloves.
     
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    At home, I keep a hitch lock on the camper, and keep the door locked. At the campsite, we lock the tow vehicle, the bikes and kayaks up at night and when we leave the site. We lock the camper door if we're leaving the campground, but we leave it open if we are wandering around the CG.
     
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    Wrenchgear Near Elmira, Southern Ontario

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    I'm not paranoid about it, but like to keep things from being taken easily. At home the hitch gets 2 locks on it, 1 that goes up in the coupler, and 1 that locks the handle down. Yes, I know that a cordless angle grinder will defeat those 2 in about 15 seconds flat, but they still make me feel a little more at ease. The LP tank and the battery come off and go in the garage. I found a set of pad locks that are 4 locks keyed alike. So that makes the 1 on the tongue lock, 1 on the storage locker lid, 1 on the roof latch, and 1 on the spare tire. I installed a long stud to hold the spare tire on, drilled a hole through the stud, and have the pad lock in that hole. Put the stabs down at home to slow that bad guys down, and thats it. While at the campsite, nothing really gets locked. We put valuables (laptops, and such) in the TV and lock it up while we walk to the beach for the day. Other than that, nothing gets locked. We have never lost anything in about 30 years of camping, (famous last words).
     
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    We lock nothing while in camp. I throw the truck keys on the camper counter or truck floor, some location that's not in perfect view. When we are working in the woods, there is a far greater chance the keys will fall out of my pocket, than someone might take something in camp. At home, we generally do lock our homes doors at night, but that doesn't always happen. We've never locked any trailer hitches or camper doors. We reside in a little collage town which has 7K students over the winter and last night we passed thought our neighbors* yard which is a college rental. Out of curiosity, I checked there doors and of course, found them unlocked.

    *we know most of the kids there since they are XC skiers.
     
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    We agree with Mike. [A] Life is to short to be shuffling around, locking everything in site.

     
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    My truck has push button key access so all my spare keys and important things are kept in the truck... All of us knows how to get into the truck with the pushbuttons...

    I guess the only mod I did was install a lock through the twist handle and frame at the propane tanks...
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    My 2KW generator is secured inside my covered and locked truck bed cover. When we need to use the generator we just pull it out onto the dropped tail gate...

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    My generator goes where we go... Would never leave it at the camp ground unattended...

    As you are probably aware that 99% of all of the key locked trailers and camper all use the same KEY NUMBER... We have misplaced our keys a couple of times and can most of the time go to the neighbor camper and borrow his keys haha....

    Of course on my off-road trailer the front door is held in place by Velcro when you setup... When I have both hands full of groceries it is easier to set one bag down and use my hand to slide behind the velco holding the door frame in place and reach inside to unlock the door then digging in my pocket trying to find the keys hehe...

    I kinda look at most of this as that locked up things are only good for the honest folks... If the thief wants to break into your trailer or whatever locks will not slow them down much... If it is too much of problem for them they might just as well throw a chain around the trailer hitch and drag the whole off into the woods...

    Was camping at one site in the Smoky Mtns one trip and me and one other camper was the only ones on this one side road. We both apparently went to town for supplies abot the same time and coming back I noticed I could not get down our road for a fallen tree... All the roads here are one way so I just went on around and came back to my camp site going the wrong way... Sure enough thieves had cut down the tree to steal the neighbors big Honda generator he had chained to the tree... I wasn't gone but maybe two hours when this happened... So there the both of us are standing looking at the downed tree in misbelief and of course his high dollar 3KW generator was gone. When I first got there he was showing me how nice his generator was going to be camping there. The camp site was not a electric camp site... Made me feel really bad as I always have my generator locked and secured inside my closed truck bed... We both shared my generator for the next few days during the camp ground visit...

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  15. jmkay1

    jmkay1 2004 Fleetwood/Coleman Utah

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    I live in the city so have seen my fair share of petty theft so I don’t take chances. At camp, the problems I have most are with the kids and wildlife. They play around with things that don’t belong to them. Even Had some kids who loosen the propane hose when I went on a hike. So I now turn gas off if I’m going to be away for long. Most of the time camp neighbors are pretty good about watching out for that kind of stuff so don’t freak out too much. My cooler I keep in the car and that’s because I sometimes camp in bear country that it becomes a habit even if I’m not. Otherwise you don’t want to live in fear, but do want to keep opportunity down.
     
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    If it is valuable it normally goes into the truck when we leave.. but easier things to steal like tank tote, bicycles (when we take them) get locked up.. but the outside cooler, buckets with close to $300 of 30 amp extension cords, bug zapper are all just left.. never had an issue... but somethings do get hidden under the bed slide-out, which then gets flags hung it to some conceal what is there..
     
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    tfischer A bad day camping beats a good day at the office

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    As more often than not we run the fridge with propane, that wouldn't work well for us.
     
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    Since we've been tent campers up to now, anything worth stealing was always kept in the van and locked if we weren't around or overnight. Bikes were locked to something overnight and if we weren't around.
    Now, with the NTU pup, we do have some easily taken things that we just want to take away the easy to take opportunity for. Other than that, we don't worry about.
    I really don't think thieves are going to campgrounds looking to make that big score, but if another camper is out walking around and sees something they forgot/want/could use, then I want to help them stay honest.

    We did have our folding chairs taken by the camp host while staying at Dead Horse Ranch SP in AZ. We were in a tent site, but hadn't set up our tent when we got there later the night before (we can sleep in our van), but did pull out our folding chairs to enjoy the evening stars and view while partaking in an adult beverage. Anyway, tucked our folded chairs in/under the picnic table when we went out for the day and when we came back they were gone. Went to the camp host to report it and he had picked them up thinking we had forgotten them. He commented about how nice they were. To be fair, though, the chairs were the only thing in our campsite, we tend to travel light, so not much stuff left around.
     
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    An honest person won't steal. Locks do not keep honest people honest because they won't do dishonest stuff regardless...

    Locks won't stop a professional thief. They bring tools to get through those locks.

    Locks WILL stop opportunistic thieves. The teenage boys who decide to look for easy pickings, the druggie looking for quick money for more drugs.

    It's the third category that is the most common type of theft by far. Most neighborhood thefts are opportunistic. And they are everywhere. In the city, in the suburb, in the country and in the campgrounds. So lock what you can and keep other stuff out of sight and you will prevent at least 90% of those thefts from occuring.
     
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