Tongue weight ?

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  1. Goforit

    Goforit Active Member

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    I have a Starcraft Starflyer which comes in at approximately 1200 lbs dry. Installed is an air-conditioner, but no heater and the icebox has been removed. Just guessing, loaded, I am under 1600 lb's. Will have to check on a scale. Here is my dilemma. I just got my scale in and measured the tongue weight. I am at 96lb's. I am way to light, would like to be around 160lb's. I have rearranged what I can. What is the best way too add "usefull" tongue weight?
     
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    Add another propane tank and battery to the tongue A-frame area? A full propane tank is 38 pounds, I think. And a group 24 battery is 50. I have dual propane, dual group-24 batteries, and my tongue is heavier than I would like it to be.
     
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    Wow. That’s light. What’s on the tongue now ?
     
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    Just load your suit cases inside forward of the axle.
     
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    On the tongue is one propane tank, no battery. I could see about carrying two tanks. One extra for my fire pit.
    On suit cases, we use travel mesh bags and they are put forward of the axel. I will have to see if I can put the ice chest in with the top down. That would add quite a bit of weight.
     
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    I see in the picture the ac is more rear then forward. Yea, get someweight up front. The lb tank is a good one for sure. Dont even have to hook it into the camper, just leave it there just in case and change over if needed. The ice chest is a good idea also.
     
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    Don’t forget that (simplified) every pound you take off the tail and put on the tongue raises the tongue weight by 2lbs

    it’s a seesaw over the axle.

    since distance from axle matters, the math is never exact. In fact, if you can tip yourself off level, a lot of weight will shift to or from tongue
     
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    Thanks for the heads up on the ratio of moving rear weight to front. Good to know.
     
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    Thanks for the weights of propane and battery. The propane I will definitely try adding. As far as the battery, I really don't have much of a need for one.
     
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    A concern for sure. I can’t tell from your original post, did you get an actual total gross weight? If not your overall weight may be less than you think. In addition to the advice offered, all I can think of adding; is your water tank full? That will add 8lbs a gallon and assuming your tank is forward. Looking at the AC placement, that will take a bit to offset it’s weight. So how does it tow now? Can you feel it bucking on the hitch when underway? Do you have sway problems?

    Good luck.
     
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    I removed the water tank. It set over and behind the axel. I use the area for storage, nothing heavy ( under the table bench seat). As far as towing, I have not felt any sway however I also have not had to make any quick evasive moves. I would rather be safe than sorry. Having towed a motorcycle trailer, for years, I know how an unbalanced load can quicky become dangerous.
     
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    You could move the spare tire to the tongue if you can find a place it doesn’t block the bunk supports. I’ll also say adding a second tank too, especially if you have a propane fire pit.
     
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    If you can take the height and still clear the bunks, you can also move to 30lb tanks... Adds weight and quite a bit of capacity
     
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    Just ordered a dual tank holder. It can hold 20 and 30 gallon tanks. Will try my 20 gallon tanks first. Also may add a tube to carry my matt. I guess adding weight is a better problem than having to lose weight.
     
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    I find adding weight is far easier.
     
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    Me too! At least that what my bathroom scale says.
     
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    Rotfl.
     

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